70's Ring Clips
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wag2 said:
Me too. What is the car at 5.08
A Matra.Really shows how the stability and safety of cars has improved. The number of roll overs and the ease with which doors burst open and people are thrown out is shocking. I hate to think what happened to the people in the car that caught fire, given that when they put it back on its wheels the roof was completely crushed.
mac96 said:
Now I know where all the Fiat 850s went...
It is not just the cars, there seem to be a distinct lack of ability as well. Way to fast into the bend! Although I suppose a lot of those cars had so little power that it was very much 'If in doubt, flat out'.
There's a reason the camera is set up there, week in, week out people still come a cropper at Adenauer Forst. It's a popular clip, the girl who's ejected out the window always makes me feel a bit sick when the car goes back on it's wheels.It is not just the cars, there seem to be a distinct lack of ability as well. Way to fast into the bend! Although I suppose a lot of those cars had so little power that it was very much 'If in doubt, flat out'.
I guess there's numerous factors as to why the car roll and crash so easily; cross ply tyres, high roll centres, soft suspension, weak body structures so the doors pop open when it flexes, none safety glass, no seat belts or only lap belts etc etc.
'Elf and safety, who needs it?!
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I guess there's numerous factors as to why the car roll and crash so easily; cross ply tyres, high roll centres, soft suspension, weak body structures so the doors pop open when it flexes, none safety glass, no seat belts or only lap belts etc etc.
You forgot 'rubbish driving'......
OverSteery said:
wag2 said:
It does not show cars with rear engines in a good light. BMW 2002s not special, either
To be fair, I think all the 911s stayed the right way upThe little 914 even came back for a second try
wag2 said:
It does not show cars with rear engines in a good light. BMW 2002s not special, either
Lots of those that roll including the beetles and 850s have swing axle suspension. When the rear camber goes positive and the car’s sliding is when it flips. Quite scary, especially the resulting structural damage. Having driven an '02 tii for 5 years in the late 1980's, I'd say it's worn standard suspension on base models and the amount of body behind the rear axle although there're actually not a lot of weight to the rear of the driver. It all tends to start like a pendulum....
Hillclimbed, towed an autocross car, daily driver through 5 winters, they were OK but mine had uprated suspension.
Towing the autocross car was entertaining, started to fish tail and the only way to stop it was drive through it...knowing you were going to have to slow down again.
Hillclimbed, towed an autocross car, daily driver through 5 winters, they were OK but mine had uprated suspension.
Towing the autocross car was entertaining, started to fish tail and the only way to stop it was drive through it...knowing you were going to have to slow down again.
Very little weight behind the rear axle line, of either the 02, the E9 or the E3.
No chassis rails running under the sides of the boot floor on any of them. A full fuel tank does of course put more weight out back, but the E9 is a nose heavy car.
The E3, has a much better balanced chassis, than an E9. Hence why the 3 BMW Concessionairs GB / Dealer Team 3.0Si run by Tony Llanfranchi, did so well in competition in 73 and 74.
No chassis rails running under the sides of the boot floor on any of them. A full fuel tank does of course put more weight out back, but the E9 is a nose heavy car.
The E3, has a much better balanced chassis, than an E9. Hence why the 3 BMW Concessionairs GB / Dealer Team 3.0Si run by Tony Llanfranchi, did so well in competition in 73 and 74.
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