Additives for E10 Petrol to prevent corrosion

[plasticpig]

This additive from Frost is supposed to prevent corrosion due to the high ethanol content of E10: https://www.frost.co.uk/ethomix-corrosion-inhibito...

I this likely to do what it says on the tin or is it snake oil?

[Scrump]

If you are worried about E10 then the first thing to do would be to stick to super unleaded which remains at E5.

[Pica-Pica]

Scrump said:

If you are worried about E10 then the first thing to do would be to stick to super unleaded which remains at E5.

+1

[Riley Blue]

Pica-Pica said:

Scrump said:

If you are worried about E10 then the first thing to do would be to stick to super unleaded which remains at E5.

+1

That's what I'm doing with my two petrol fuelled cars. It's easy to find with https://www.petrolprices.com

[steveo3002]

super unleaded at most esso should be e0 unless in t north

[nullogik]

steveo3002 said:

super unleaded at most esso should be e0 unless in t north

Yes, agree. If you are going with super you might as well seek out your local Esso for their Synergy Supreme+ 99 that despite the pump saying E5 (legal requirements), it doesn't contain any ethanol unless you are in some specific regions as explained here:
https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels/petrol

[Tyre Smoke]

What about two stroke engines? I'm guessing the ethanol is largely negated by the premix of two stroke oil?

[Riley Blue]

nullogik said:

steveo3002 said:

super unleaded at most esso should be e0 unless in t north

Yes, agree. If you are going with super you might as well seek out your local Esso for their Synergy Supreme+ 99 that despite the pump saying E5 (legal requirements), it doesn't contain any ethanol unless you are in some specific regions as explained here:
https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels/petrol

Less costs more, I paid 151.9p per litre for it in a town centre filling station a couple of weeks ago

[steveo3002]

Riley Blue said:

Less costs more, I paid 151.9p per litre for it in a town centre filling station a couple of weeks ago

not ideal but additives will cost money

or top up with super now n then so its 50/50 e3 ish lol

planning to chance mine on e10 and use esso when its stood up in winter

[rampageturke]

nullogik said:

steveo3002 said:

super unleaded at most esso should be e0 unless in t north

Yes, agree. If you are going with super you might as well seek out your local Esso for their Synergy Supreme+ 99 that despite the pump saying E5 (legal requirements), it doesn't contain any ethanol unless you are in some specific regions as explained here:
https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels/petrol

Peculiar that the whole north of england is excluded. I might as well stick to Tesco momentum if thats the case, cheapest of the bunch for premium and most accessible.

[Riley Blue]

rampageturke said:

nullogik said:

steveo3002 said:

super unleaded at most esso should be e0 unless in t north

Yes, agree. If you are going with super you might as well seek out your local Esso for their Synergy Supreme+ 99 that despite the pump saying E5 (legal requirements), it doesn't contain any ethanol unless you are in some specific regions as explained here:
https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels/petrol

Peculiar that the whole north of england is excluded. I might as well stick to Tesco momentum if thats the case, cheapest of the bunch for premium and most accessible.

Momentum is my fuel of choice and as you state, it's most accessible - I drove from Land's End to John O'Groats in a car with a range of 200 miles on a tankful and was able to use it all the way.

[Roony]

What happens in 5 years time when E5 super becomes E10? will the only option be E10 with an additive?

[Sf_Manta]

The main issues with E10 is the ethanol content, which causes the rubber fuel lines to disolve and some electric pumps.
A new fuel pump thats E10 compatiable will solve that problem, and the fuel line can be gotten from places like below:

https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/ethanol-proof-fuel-h...

Most carbs should cope with it, though gaskets may need renewing, and any rubber components swapping to Vitron silicon if possible.

[Riley Blue]

I was browsing the Burlen web site yesterday looking for a part number and came across this on their S.U FAQ's page:

Q: Are your parts suitable for modern fuel?

A: Yes our parts are suitable for modern fuels. As a company we have improved our products including fuel hose and floats to be compatible with fuel changes.

I couldn't find any reference to E10 compatibility nor its potential affect on gaskets, grommets etc.

[anonymous-user]

Tyre Smoke said:

What about two stroke engines? I'm guessing the ethanol is largely negated by the premix of two stroke oil?

How? The oil doesn’t displace the ethanol, it is still there. The oil is only 2% (50:1), so even if it did there’s still far more ethanol.
Before some pedantic mathematician points it out, I am aware that 50:1 is actually 1/51 = 1.96%.

[Tyre Smoke]

Cliffe60 said:

Tyre Smoke said:

What about two stroke engines? I'm guessing the ethanol is largely negated by the premix of two stroke oil?

How? The oil doesn’t displace the ethanol, it is still there. The oil is only 2% (50:1), so even if it did there’s still far more ethanol.
Before some pedantic mathematician points it out, I am aware that 50:1 is actually 1/51 = 1.96%.

I was more working on the basis that the engine was put together in a factory using wooden mallets and only 'premium' petrol of 87ron or better should be used. It runs on 40:1 mix in the petrol tank, highly technical!

[astonman]

E10, HAS A LOWER Calorific value than E5 or E5 without any Ethanol Eg Esso Supreme 99+ unleaded (in SE and midlands).
If you have an E10, compatible vehicle ,which senses your engine is running weak on this fuel,it will automatically add more fuel.So,in a compatible vehicle,YOUR FUEL consumption will INCREASE by up to 10% ( see Autocar tests).
If you have a non compatible vehicle,Eg carburettor or older injected ,Eg TVR it will RUN WEAK!
If you put the non compatible engine under high load conditions,using E10,the weakness will cause heat,heat can lead to pre-ignition and detonation and engine failure.Holed pistons and total engine failure are quite possible.
E5 means you can add up to 5% ethanol,NOT you must.Esso supreme 99+ unleaded is Ethanol free in the Southeast and midlands of England ( but labelled as E5). Elsewhere, the fuel base is Not sourced from a Esso owned refinery.
Stanlow which supplies much of the NW and Wales
and the other Northern refineries ALL produce base fuel for Esso,but with Ethanol already added.

Any over the counter bottle of magic will not be able to address all the issues associated with E10.You Have been warned!
Moving to E10 without proper education of the public has been described as irresponsible, but what else would you expect from a serial philanderer at the helm?

[Jag_NE]

Glad I’m running a rapid diesel.

[anonymous-user]

It’s part of the plan to make you get an EV. E10 will f@ck your car and faced with a big bill, you’ll hopefully buy a new one.

[Ardennes92]

And excellent for the environment