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Skyedriver

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21,950 posts

303 months

Saturday 5th March 2022
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Anyone going viewing at the March Auction please?

littleredrooster

6,099 posts

217 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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Do you need someone to be actually at the auction, or just look over something beforehand? It's quite local to me (~12 miles) if the latter.

MuscleSedan

1,614 posts

196 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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According to their website you can only view prior to the auction.

" We’re sorry, but our auction days are currently closed to the public "


Skyedriver

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21,950 posts

303 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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littleredrooster said:
Do you need someone to be actually at the auction, or just look over something beforehand? It's quite local to me (~12 miles) if the latter.
Hi and thanks, yes a look over before hand, i'm over 300 miles from T le D, I'll drop you a PM in the next couple of days thanks.

Mark V GTD

2,874 posts

145 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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MuscleSedan said:
According to their website you can only view prior to the auction.

" We’re sorry, but our auction days are currently closed to the public "
What does that mean - you come and look the day before and then bid on the phone on the day of the auction?

Divieto di Sosta

4,875 posts

100 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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Mark V GTD said:
MuscleSedan said:
According to their website you can only view prior to the auction.

" We’re sorry, but our auction days are currently closed to the public "
What does that mean - you come and look the day before and then bid on the phone on the day of the auction?
Sounds like that's the case , going by the throng they attract they obviously don't want a Covid spreading episode .

Can we use this thread for a general chatter about Derek's auctions ?

Just browsed the March catalogue and fell in love with no. 244 , immaculate FIAT 600 , suicide doors n everything , colour's a bit

old school drab but like these so much more than a Nuova 500 . Don't have the £££ to buy though......frown

ETA....no. 303 another Escort RS1600i , colour of this one looks too dark to be Sunburst red ,so not an original RSi colour.....scratchchin


Edited by Divieto di Sosta on Sunday 6th March 15:09

Skyedriver

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21,950 posts

303 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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I don't mind if the mods don't but there is a similar discussion on the TV forum

Mr Tidy

28,840 posts

148 months

Monday 7th March 2022
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Divieto di Sosta said:
Just browsed the March catalogue and fell in love with no. 244 , immaculate FIAT 600 , suicide doors n everything , colour's a bit

old school drab but like these so much more than a Nuova 500 . Don't have the £££ to buy though......frown

Edited by Divieto di Sosta on Sunday 6th March 15:09
You got lucky then, unless you are a masochist!

In 1967 my Mum had an inheritance after her Dad passed away and bought her first car, a 1967 Fiat 600 in Sand Tan (looked as boring as it sounds) for £425, but it did have the "roll back" vinyl roof - LTA 602F where are you now? Probably in a skip years ago!

It needed welding work on the sills for the MOT in the early 70s but my Dad being a true Scot used to bundle all 4 of us in it for 40+ mile visits to relatives while his Fiat 125 sat in the garage. banghead

But it was the first car my sister drove after passing her test and must have made some sort of impression on her as she bought a 2018 Twin-Air 500 last year.

Thankfully it had been replaced by a Fiat 127 (OML 690K) by the time I got my full licence which was just fantastic for a teenage hooligan - until a year later I bought the 125 (FME 446J) that could mix it with Cortina GTs and Capris.

I have fond memories of the 600 for what it was at the time, but not for being in any way special - especially not at that sort of money!




Rob 131 Sport

4,250 posts

73 months

Monday 7th March 2022
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Divieto di Sosta said:
Mark V GTD said:
MuscleSedan said:
According to their website you can only view prior to the auction.

" We’re sorry, but our auction days are currently closed to the public "
What does that mean - you come and look the day before and then bid on the phone on the day of the auction?
Sounds like that's the case , going by the throng they attract they obviously don't want a Covid spreading episode .

Can we use this thread for a general chatter about Derek's auctions ?

Just browsed the March catalogue and fell in love with no. 244 , immaculate FIAT 600 , suicide doors n everything , colour's a bit

old school drab but like these so much more than a Nuova 500 . Don't have the £££ to buy though......frown

ETA....no. 303 another Escort RS1600i , colour of this one looks too dark to be Sunburst red ,so not an original RSi colour.....scratchchin


Edited by Divieto di Sosta on Sunday 6th March 15:09
That RS looks lovely and I can really see the appeal of MK3 Sporty Escorts. I’m fairly sure that Red was one of the original RS1600 colours.

Divieto di Sosta

4,875 posts

100 months

Monday 7th March 2022
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Rob 131 Sport said:
That RS looks lovely and I can really see the appeal of MK3 Sporty Escorts. I’m fairly sure that Red was one of the original RS1600 colours.
Yes , Sunburst red was one of the 6 colours available but that car looks too dark to be Sunburst , might just be the light ....paperbag

Touring442

3,096 posts

230 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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I had an RS1600i 34 years ago. It was alright but not much better than an XR3i and nowhere near as nice as a Golf GTI.

It looked good but the ride and brakes were atrocious, it tramlined all over the road and it had the feel of a car based on a pile of st, which the CVH Escort certainly was. I drove another one later on and it was just the same.

Rob 131 Sport

4,250 posts

73 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Touring442 said:
I had an RS1600i 34 years ago. It was alright but not much better than an XR3i and nowhere near as nice as a Golf GTI.

It looked good but the ride and brakes were atrocious, it tramlined all over the road and it had the feel of a car based on a pile of st, which the CVH Escort certainly was. I drove another one later on and it was just the same.
I assume your referring to the MK2 GTI. Whilst the 16 Valve was highly desirable, I would definitely have the RS1600 over an 8 Valve GTI, due to the RS’s vastly superior looks and performance.
I never got the appeal of the 8 Valve MK2 GTI.

Touring442

3,096 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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No, the Mark 1 Golf with which the Escort 'competed'. The Mark 2 came later.

My dear old Mum bought a GTI new in 1982, hence the reference.

Skyedriver

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303 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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littleredrooster said:
Do you need someone to be actually at the auction, or just look over something beforehand? It's quite local to me (~12 miles) if the latter.
Rang a couple of times , can't get to speak to anyone with a few questions.
I'll PM you and if you have the opportunity to call in I'd appreciate it, but don't put yourself out please. Car is at Pickering I think.

stevemcs

9,875 posts

114 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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That RS looks a little tatty, we are staying at a camp site this weekend in Pickering so i'm hoping to go and have a look around to see whats about in the classic Ford world.

Mr Tidy

28,840 posts

148 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Rob 131 Sport said:
Touring442 said:
I had an RS1600i 34 years ago. It was alright but not much better than an XR3i and nowhere near as nice as a Golf GTI.

It looked good but the ride and brakes were atrocious, it tramlined all over the road and it had the feel of a car based on a pile of st, which the CVH Escort certainly was. I drove another one later on and it was just the same.
I assume your referring to the MK2 GTI. Whilst the 16 Valve was highly desirable, I would definitely have the RS1600 over an 8 Valve GTI, due to the RS’s vastly superior looks and performance.
I never got the appeal of the 8 Valve MK2 GTI.
I had a MK2 RS2000 40 years ago and never wanted any MK3 Escort, so I bought a 2 year old Capri 2.8 Injection in 1984!

XR3s "RS 1600is", GTis, 205 GTis just seemed like cannon fodder for my Capri, but my 16V MK2 Golf GTi was pretty special!




Rob 131 Sport

4,250 posts

73 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Mr Tidy said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
Touring442 said:
I had an RS1600i 34 years ago. It was alright but not much better than an XR3i and nowhere near as nice as a Golf GTI.

It looked good but the ride and brakes were atrocious, it tramlined all over the road and it had the feel of a car based on a pile of st, which the CVH Escort certainly was. I drove another one later on and it was just the same.
I assume your referring to the MK2 GTI. Whilst the 16 Valve was highly desirable, I would definitely have the RS1600 over an 8 Valve GTI, due to the RS’s vastly superior looks and performance.
I never got the appeal of the 8 Valve MK2 GTI.
I had a MK2 RS2000 40 years ago and never wanted any MK3 Escort, so I bought a 2 year old Capri 2.8 Injection in 1984!

XR3s "RS 1600is", GTis, 205 GTis just seemed like cannon fodder for my Capri, but my 16V MK2 Golf GTi was pretty special!
Any of the above mentioned hot hatches would run rings your Capri on the corners. I would imagine that a 205 GTI 1.9 would also beat it in a straight line.

Shezbo

626 posts

151 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Touring442 said:
I had an RS1600i 34 years ago. It was alright but not much better than an XR3i and nowhere near as nice as a Golf GTI.

It looked good but the ride and brakes were atrocious, it tramlined all over the road and it had the feel of a car based on a pile of st, which the CVH Escort certainly was. I drove another one later on and it was just the same.
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In 1985, I had a red XR3i and the RS1600i was (on paper and the looks department) a far superior car.

RS dealers in Welshpool (WR Davies) had a 2nd hand RS1600i for sale. One Saturday morning I went jumped out of the 3i and into the RS, needless to say I did not buy it! The only thing that was great (and is still great today) were the seats....the rest of the car was like an XR3i only 'harsher'...not enjoyable at all.

6 months later I purchased a Mk1 Astra GTE (Recaro seats remember) in the 'all white' colour scheme. It was a brill car sooo much better than either a XR3i or RS and even better than the Mk2 Golf GTi that I replaced it with....

Out of all the early mid eighties FWD hot hatches a Mk1 Astra GTE is the only one I would buy today....a red one this time round please!

Touring442

3,096 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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That GM engine was very good. The Mark 2 GTE was alright once you sorted out the dismal suspension but they never felt like a particularly nice car. I never drove a Mark 1 but I knew they were well regarded.

Turbobanana

7,717 posts

222 months

Thursday 10th March 2022
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Touring442 said:
That GM engine was very good. The Mark 2 GTE was alright once you sorted out the dismal suspension but they never felt like a particularly nice car. I never drove a Mark 1 but I knew they were well regarded.
You're right. My biggest problem with Vauxhalls of that ere - quick ones or otherwise - was the clanky, dimwitted gearchange that felt like it was connected to nothing in particular.