Morris Minor - disappearing fuel
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Bennet

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2,133 posts

152 months

Friday 18th March 2022
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Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this:

My Morris Minor has a broken fuel guage.

I ran out of fuel, conveniently opposite a petrol station.

I used a petrol can and bought 5 litres of fuel and drove 3 miles home.

The car was then in my garage for 4 months or so over winter.

I came to start it and the fuel tank was empty. I can't possibly have used 5 litres to drive 3 miles and then run out with perfect timing when I garaged the car. There is no puddle of fuel under the car.

Could the remaining fuel conceivably have evaporated leaving the tank empty? Is this typical of old crocks? Does it mean the tank isn't sealed or something?

Rockets7

476 posts

151 months

Friday 18th March 2022
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Leaked out.
Fuel cap seal no good
It’s all in the sump.

crankedup5

10,917 posts

56 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Fuel pick up pipe rotted out at the base leaving almost 5 lt of fuel in the bottom of tank.

Dogwatch

6,355 posts

243 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Given what comes out of pump nozzles these days I doubt that any residue after 4 months storage would be much good anyway.

grumpy52

5,926 posts

187 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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crankedup5 said:
Fuel pick up pipe rotted out at the base leaving almost 5 lt of fuel in the bottom of tank.
This ,or crap in the tank ( large flakes) block the pickup pipe then fall back when the suction stops .

dontlookdown

2,327 posts

114 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Is the tank actually empty, or just no fuel coming through?

If the latter, could be a blockage in tank or fuel line somewhere.

If the former, the tank could be porous so fuel seeps out slowly enough to evaporate without a puddle forming.

How often do you check on the car? Could the fuel all have leaked out a while ago so puddle has gone now?

In either of the latter cases would expect a fuel smell.

Assuming its not a blockage then put more petrol in and monitor closely for leaks/damp patches on the tank/strong smell of fuel.

astonman

833 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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The small volume of ethanol containing fuel ,has absorbed enough water for phase separation to occur? In that scenario,you have a layer of water at the bottom of the tank.When you came to start the car,the carbs were filled with water ?

finlo

4,090 posts

224 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Probably evaporated, small amount of fuel with a large surface area.

astonman

833 posts

231 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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5 litres definitely won't evaporate from the tank vent in a UK garage,over winter.If there's no fuel it's a leak or fuel can siphon from the tank to the float bowl and evaporate from that; very unlikely with such a low level of fuel.
Having found old petrol ( ethanol free) from the 1960s in fuel lines removed thirty to forty years later, petrol doesn't all evaporate,you get an oily relatively viscous ( paraffin like viscosity) remaining.

Edited by astonman on Saturday 19th March 11:50

Monkeylegend

28,234 posts

252 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Dogwatch said:
Given what comes out of pump nozzles these days I doubt that any residue after 4 months storage would be much good anyway.
Started my lawnmower on the first pull after 4 months of storage, using the old petrol, and cut the grass with no issues and that is with E10 unleaded.

I also have a petrol car that has been off road unused for nearly a year and it still starts and runs on that year old petrol.

Bennet

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2,133 posts

152 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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dontlookdown said:
Is the tank actually empty, or just no fuel coming through?
The gauge is broken. Shining a torch down the filler pipe and all looked dry, although you can't see much.

I filled it with another five litres and it started immediately, so the issue definitely seems to have been a lack of fuel.

dontlookdown

2,327 posts

114 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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Bennet said:
The gauge is broken. Shining a torch down the filler pipe and all looked dry, although you can't see much.

I filled it with another five litres and it started immediately, so the issue definitely seems to have been a lack of fuel.
Result! In that case just keep a close eye on it for leaks/smelling. On a Minor the filler neck is quite straight as I recall, so you should be able to dip the tank with a clean garden cane or similar for level. Mark where the fuel comes up to on the stick, and check before you go out in it again to see if it has dropped while the car has been standing.

OutInTheShed

12,714 posts

47 months

Saturday 19th March 2022
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A tiny leak or seepage will allow petrol to evaporate without dripping on the floor.
Tank is probably not sealed as well as a modern car, so some loss from evaporation.