Help identifying old car
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dazmorg

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11 posts

121 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Hi, I have a photo of an old (vintage) car which we are tying to identify. There may or may not be an accompanying photo hence the description.
It’s RHD with air intakes on the low rear wings single circular headlamps on the bonnet and rectangular indicators above a chrome bumper.
The logo looks like a circular crown in an elongated pentagon with writing above it that I can’t read.
The bonnet has a single crease in the centre, 4 doors with a chrome strip along the side.
Index is 658BYN if that helps.
It’s an image we use to help people living with dementia but we are all at a loss to ID it.
Thank you.

wpa1975

13,205 posts

135 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Renault Dauphine

dazmorg

Original Poster:

11 posts

121 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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That’s amazing thank you 😊 I have just spent an hour searching the internet and failing spectacularly.

Super Sonic

11,616 posts

75 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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I remember years ago seeing one of these in 'Hot Car' magazine. Had a V8 installed.

Allan L

799 posts

126 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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You won't see many these days as even when newish they were renowned as rustbuckets.

Elderly

3,645 posts

259 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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On my way to school in the (mid?) 60s, I used to pass a garage that serviced the recently introduced mini-cabs which were red Renault Dauphines plastered in adverts.

john2443

6,489 posts

232 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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Elderly said:
On my way to school in the (mid?) 60s, I used to pass a garage that serviced the recently introduced mini-cabs which were red Renault Dauphines plastered in adverts.
I had (may still have) a Dinky model of that.

bigandclever

14,181 posts

259 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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john2443 said:
Elderly said:
On my way to school in the (mid?) 60s, I used to pass a garage that serviced the recently introduced mini-cabs which were red Renault Dauphines plastered in adverts.
I had (may still have) a Dinky model of that.
There’s a book about them too .. https://stephendinebooks.com/product/minicab/

And a brief article here .. https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article...

williamp

20,048 posts

294 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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Little known fact: The Queen had one, and would drive around london in it...

eldar

24,793 posts

217 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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I owned one. The handling made an Austin A35 feel like an F1 car.

And they rusted impressively efficiently.

LuS1fer

43,093 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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Dauphine means Princess. Had a model as a kid but she left me...
No, wait, I mean I did have a model and liked the curves on it.

The Renault 8 and 10 were also rear engined but a lot more square.

Edited to accommodate criticism laugh

Edited by LuS1fer on Wednesday 27th April 22:15

eldar

24,793 posts

217 months

Wednesday 27th April 2022
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LuS1fer said:
Dauphine means Princess. Had a model as a kid but she left me...
No, wait, I mean I did have a model and liked the curves on it.

The Renault 8 and 10 were also tear engined but a lot more square.
A most appropriate spelling error there. Assuming its an errorsmile

RDMcG

20,333 posts

228 months

Saturday 30th April 2022
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I was once in Kansas on Route 66, and to my astonishment found a Renault breaker's yard. I had never seen one on the road, and yet there were dozens of cars there in a place called Baxter Springs...

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Dapster

8,609 posts

201 months

Saturday 30th April 2022
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RDMcG said:
The European 9 and 11 were known as the Alliance and Encore over your way! Built in Wisconsin


LuS1fer

43,093 posts

266 months

Saturday 30th April 2022
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Renault tried to infiltrate the US with an alliance with AMC (hence the Alliance name) but they also got the 18i Sedan and Sportwagon which was eventually replaced with the 21 based "Eagle Medallion" which says it all.

Not a huge success...

Cliftonite

8,657 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th April 2022
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I owned three of these.

One had been a London Minicab - registration number 194 BYN (compare with OP's photo!)


Caterhamfan

345 posts

191 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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My Dad had a secondhand one of these in the 60s, it was red and caught fire one day while we were bump starting it because the fuel pipe had come away from the carburettor. My recollection is that it was just an interference fit into the carb but I was only about 13 or 14 at the time so that might not be correct. I do know that it put my Mum off red cars for life!

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

225 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Dapster said:
The European 9 and 11 were known as the Alliance and Encore over your way! Built in Wisconsin

I'd never seen an 11 before! And I'm amazed how similar it is to the Piazza, Guigiaro's Ace of Clubs that Isuzu took up and marketed:



The Renault was designed by Robert Opron, and both cars appeared in 1981, but Guigiaro's was shown at the 1979 Motor Show as a concept car. Did Opron see it there?

LuS1fer

43,093 posts

266 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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tapkaJohnD said:
I'd never seen an 11 before! And I'm amazed how similar it is to the Piazza, Guigiaro's Ace of Clubs that Isuzu took up and marketed:



The Renault was designed by Robert Opron, and both cars appeared in 1981, but Guigiaro's was shown at the 1979 Motor Show as a concept car. Did Opron see it there?
I think you might need to see an 11 in the metal. It is a stumpy hatchback and nothing like the Isuzu Piazza which is a longer coupe, more Scirocco.