Dvla advice on our etype
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Julian Thompson

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2,639 posts

259 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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After forty years (!) of restoration tinkering my dear father has finally got the old girl ready to run again.

Thing is, he only has the old logbook (in his name at his still current address.)

Can anyone recommend a way to approach getting the car sorted with DVLA? The car has its original engine, gearbox and running gear. He has built it up in a different colour that it was originally.

the-norseman

14,929 posts

192 months

Saturday 21st May 2022
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Surely he just needs to apply for a new log book and do a colour change?

Julian Thompson

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2,639 posts

259 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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But there was something about an old logbook amnesty in the eighties? He missed all that so this car I guess isn’t on the dvla computer? Is it really as easy as that? The logbook isn’t a “V5c” it’s a really old one.

e600

1,522 posts

173 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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I have done this, several times. Firstly phone DVLA and explain, they will guide you through the process, it may involve one of their agents making a site visit to take photos and a short report. In anticipation I would also buy a heritage certificate from Jaguar which confirms the vehicles numbers.

If not already a member I would join either JDC or JEC as they can also guide you.

Julian Thompson

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2,639 posts

259 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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Thanks that is super helpful. Will work on the heritage certs and then put a plan in motion.

DBSV8

5,958 posts

259 months

Sunday 22nd May 2022
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Julian Thompson said:
Thanks that is super helpful. Will work on the heritage certs and then put a plan in motion.
also please upload details into the XKE database it holds records of all E types that exist


http://www.xkedata.com/




thanks

DB4DM

1,079 posts

144 months

Monday 23rd May 2022
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Have a look at V55/5 procedure, in particular the evidence requirements. You may need an approved owners club to endorse your application pre-DVLA, which may cost and require an inspection to authenticate the car. Over the years I've done about 80 of these and V765 inspections for AMHT as a neutral. Good luck with the admin!

schmokin1

1,222 posts

233 months

Saturday 11th June 2022
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……and be prepared for the DVLA to be totally incompetent and reject your application on spurious grounds several times over, if my experience is anything to go by, with a long wait in between for each rejection to happen….

So far they have rejected my application because they:
decided on zero evidence that the car is an import and told me I needed to follow NOVA procedure (twice)
told me incorrectly I needed to pay a fee
rejected my Heritage Cert as insufficient evidence the car was legit.

Total f###wits

iDrive

443 posts

134 months

Saturday 11th June 2022
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schmokin1 said:
……and be prepared for the DVLA to be totally incompetent and reject your application on spurious grounds several times over, if my experience is anything to go by, with a long wait in between for each rejection to happen….

So far they have rejected my application because they:
decided on zero evidence that the car is an import and told me I needed to follow NOVA procedure (twice)
told me incorrectly I needed to pay a fee
rejected my Heritage Cert as insufficient evidence the car was legit.

Total f###wits
I've only done it once, but took advice from others who were more experienced and the DVLA couldn't have been more helpful and professional.

andrewcliffe

1,426 posts

245 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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If its not on the current DVLA database I would do the following:

-obtain the paper copy of the NOVA 1 form, fill all you can in and write a covering letter and wait for the reply

-download v55/5 application form - fill all the relevent bits. You'll need dating evidence - either from Jaguar or a recognised Jaguar Club.

fill it all in, with copies of the buff log book (they'll may the original)

Double check , triple check and quadrouple check all the forms

Wait for the DVLA to do its thing - which takes ages.

aeropilot

39,214 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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andrewcliffe said:
If its not on the current DVLA database I would do the following:

-obtain the paper copy of the NOVA 1 form, fill all you can in and write a covering letter and wait for the reply
I think you need to read the OP again.....car is not an import.

B'stard Child

30,654 posts

267 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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Julian Thompson said:
After forty years (!) of restoration tinkering my dear father has finally got the old girl ready to run again.

Thing is, he only has the old logbook (in his name at his still current address.)

Can anyone recommend a way to approach getting the car sorted with DVLA? The car has its original engine, gearbox and running gear. He has built it up in a different colour that it was originally.
When you say old log book - do you mean the original “log book” or an old and since superceeded registration document?

andrewcliffe

1,426 posts

245 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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aeropilot said:
I think you need to read the OP again.....car is not an import.
If my professional capacity I had to re-register a car which had been sold new in the UK that had fallen off the system during the 1980s. The advice from the DVLA was to do the NOVA thing first. It registered a flag on their computer system and allows you to proceed. I have the Nova form which can be emailed over.


healeyfan

252 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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The easiest way is to just get an MOT for it. DVLA use this to determine that the car actually exists. Then apply for a current V5.

Ean218

2,031 posts

271 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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How do you get an MOT for a vehicle that isn't on the DVLA database?

If it is on the DVLA database, and you have an original V5 type document, the simplest method is to insure it and buy the tax at the Post Office accompanied by the old V5 and an historic MOT exemption form. The post office isssues the tax there and then, sends off the docs to Swansea and then a current V5C turns up a few weeks later. Although, from experience, you may have to try several post offices until you can find one that understands the process.

No ideas for a name

2,928 posts

107 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Ean218 said:
How do you get an MOT for a vehicle that isn't on the DVLA database?
You used to be able to do this... just MoT it on the chassis number.
I did my Westfield this way - but that was 30 years ago!

lowdrag

13,137 posts

234 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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DBSV8 said:
also please upload details into the XKE database it holds records of all E types that exist


http://www.xkedata.com/




thanks
Well, "some" would be a more accurate statement. I reckon about 25/30%

captain.scarlet

1,891 posts

55 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Julian Thompson said:
Thanks that is super helpful. Will work on the heritage certs and then put a plan in motion.
In the interests of nostalgia, making a colour copy and scan of all of the original logbook would certainly add to the heritage aspect biggrin. Would be nice to see what the older logbooks look like and I would add a piece to the car's history.

lowdrag

13,137 posts

234 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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Like this you mean? I never had the buff one, but this shows a hard life. Originally gunmetal with red interior, she was repainted maroon, then hand painted yellow, which is when I bought her. I rebuilt her in Ford Glacier Blue (because I liked it) in 1987 and she stayed like that until a second rebuild in 2013/4 had her put back in factory colours. I have letters from all the previous owners noted here too. All just part of the history of the car.. You are lucky to have the whole history.


healeyfan

252 posts

211 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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PM me as I've done this.