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Doofus

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32,615 posts

194 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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I'm out of ideas, although I feel sure I've seen one somewhere before.


Turbobanana

7,709 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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Looks like an early form of cruise control (or tempomat, speedostat). Also looks French, judging by the acute accent on the first E of RÉSERVE.

dandarez

13,836 posts

304 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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Turbobanana said:
Looks like an early form of cruise control (or tempomat, speedostat). Also looks French, judging by the acute accent on the first E of RÉSERVE.
I don't think that is an acute accent, I think it just a bit of grubbiness!
Surely 'route' would be 'itinéraire' if it was French? wink


Cranked

268 posts

304 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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Doesn't answer the question but it's a 1938 Lancia Astura Pininfarina Saloon.

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1938-lancia...

Doofus

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32,615 posts

194 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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Cranked said:
Doesn't answer the question but it's a 1938 Lancia Astura Pininfarina Saloon.

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1938-lancia...
I know.

stevo6667

26 posts

113 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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Wow what a handsome car never knew it existed. Rather have that than any Rolls Royce or equivalent from that period.

stevo6667

26 posts

113 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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And RHD.

stevo6667

26 posts

113 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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And RHD.

Doofus

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32,615 posts

194 months

Wednesday 15th June 2022
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stevo6667 said:
And RHD.
Lancias were all RHD until the 1950s.

Turbobanana

7,709 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Reading a bit about Asturas on t'Internet, it seems many had adjustable friction dampers on the rear axle, controlled from the dashboard. The picture is not too clear, but there appears to be the letters "AR" on the knurled wheel - a French reference to "arriere" = rear?

DodgyGeezer

45,848 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Doofus said:
Lancias were all RHD until the 1950s.
eek

Deefor62

512 posts

169 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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DodgyGeezer said:
Doofus said:
Lancias were all RHD until the 1950s.
eek
I seem to recall this was due to Lancia attracting the more sporty driver, it was so that they could judge the distance to the unguarded drop on the right hand side whilst hurtling through the Alps.
Not sure whether that is true but logical. It could also be that it made it easier to nip into the shops when abandoning the car at the side of the road.

Ambleton

7,163 posts

213 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Doofus said:
Cranked said:
Doesn't answer the question but it's a 1938 Lancia Astura Pininfarina Saloon.

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1938-lancia...
I know.
Can you buy it and let us know?

Cranked

268 posts

304 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Doofus said:
Cranked said:
Doesn't answer the question but it's a 1938 Lancia Astura Pininfarina Saloon.

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1938-lancia...
I know.
rolleyes But you didn't bother to mention it, even when people were suggesting it was French.

Doofus

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32,615 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Cranked said:
Doofus said:
Cranked said:
Doesn't answer the question but it's a 1938 Lancia Astura Pininfarina Saloon.

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1938-lancia...
I know.
rolleyes But you didn't bother to mention it, even when people were suggesting it was French.
I didn't expect it to be relevant.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

127 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Deefor62 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Doofus said:
Lancias were all RHD until the 1950s.
eek
I seem to recall this was due to Lancia attracting the more sporty driver, it was so that they could judge the distance to the unguarded drop on the right hand side whilst hurtling through the Alps.
Not sure whether that is true but logical. It could also be that it made it easier to nip into the shops when abandoning the car at the side of the road.
As I understand this also applied to some of Fiat's car transporters.

Doofus

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32,615 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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Deefor62 said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Doofus said:
Lancias were all RHD until the 1950s.
eek
I seem to recall this was due to Lancia attracting the more sporty driver, it was so that they could judge the distance to the unguarded drop on the right hand side whilst hurtling through the Alps.
Not sure whether that is true but logical. It could also be that it made it easier to nip into the shops when abandoning the car at the side of the road.
Italy initially drove on the left. It changed gradually (yes, gradually smile ) until the last city to switch to driving on the right was Milan in (IIRC) 1929.

williamp

20,048 posts

294 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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It gets stranger...

Many French cars retained right hand drive, despite driving on the right, until the 1950s. This seems to have been partly due to snobbishness – it implied that one always or sometimes had a chauffeur who found it more convenient to step out directly onto the pavement to open the rear door for his passengers.

Up to the 1920s many American, Italian and German cars came only with right hand drive and American fire engines favoured this layout up to the early 1930s. In general it was cheaper cars for owner-drivers that had left hand drive in their homelands, examples being the first Chevrolets, Citroens and Opels. Hence why all pre-war Bugattis are rhd...??

The safety aspect is aother as said- Italiann trucks up to the 50s were rhd

Italy was odd, as above: towns with 25000+ inhabitants could choose. Milan and Turing drove on the left. Genoa hsd no real rule and visitirs were advused to stop and ask before entering!


In 1926, the following drove on the left: Austria, Hungary, Portugal, Sweden, Croatia, Slovenia and parts of Switzerland closest to Italy. Not surprisingly the British Empire followed Britain’s lead as did bordering countries and several that adjoined the main route to the East via the Suez Canal.

At the start of 1946 China switched to the right but Japan and Hong Kong stayed on the left. Korea had driven on the right, but was forced to the left after it was invaded by Japan in the 1930s and then moved back to the right in 1946. Conversely Paris in 1911 nearly switched to the left because the lack of visibility when overtaking with a right hand drive car from the right to left hand side of the road.

Oddly, maritime law is that ships pass on the right, which sort-of makes them lhd...

Dogwatch

6,355 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th June 2022
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I suppose we’re going completely off topic here but I have a distant memory of being surprised at seeing ordinary trucks with rhd being driven around Rome in the ‘70s

Carfield

317 posts

192 months

Friday 17th June 2022
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The reserve / route markings seem to suggest something to do with fuel, but I can’t imagine what. Other Asturas don’t obviously have the same thing on the dash.