The £180k Fiat
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Retro.74

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290 posts

44 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12426424

Another world gone mad moment?

I guess it has some redeeming features to some, quite aggressive looks, wheels, looks in good nick, but struggling to justify anything that comes close to even a quarter of the asking price.

Personally if I wanted something like this would go for an Integrale, and even at their bonkers prices would have a 100k left in my pocket.

wpa1975

13,174 posts

135 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I guess it is that find another moment, cannot be many left now.

But I agree it is bonkers money.

Venisonpie

4,365 posts

103 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Maybe, however I think your analogy with an Integrale is a good one. This car is an example of a world rally championship winner hence the lofty price.

Personally I love it.

bloomen

9,008 posts

180 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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I had one these. Same colour too.

I paid 8-9 grand for it around 2000 ish from Italy.

I thought it was super cool, but no ball of fire and terrifyingly spindly, especially at the back where the rear end was a few gaping steel frames with the panels hanging off them.

Weirdly enough it was a fantastic motorway cruiser but not a vast amount of fun in the bends.

Never driven a hot Escort but I expect that would be a much more satisfying drive. All the same these will be rarer than ever and very desirable to some people.


valiant

13,021 posts

181 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Worth every fking penny.

Absolutely glorious.

Mastiff

2,515 posts

262 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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valiant said:
Worth every fking penny.

Absolutely glorious.
As above - yes please. wobble

If I think about what I sold my Orange 131 TC Sport for - I shall start crying.

carinaman

24,043 posts

193 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Misleading thread title.

It's not just any Fiat is it?

How does it compare to Mk1 and Mk2 Escorts with competition history?

I don't know how good the £66K Capri is, but could this homologation special be worth half a dozen decent Capris?


I've owned Fiats. If I won a lottery roll over I'd consider that Fiat. It's small and I like the colour. I am assuming it has a Lampredi Twin Cam in it.

MightyBadger

3,654 posts

71 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Awesome car, worth the money.

Lagerlout

1,812 posts

257 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Yeah it's just a Fiat. 3 times world champion 131 Abarth, rallied by Rohrl, Alen, Mouton, Andruet & Bettega amongst many others. 1 of 400 made in total, not even in the same league rarity wise vs any Integrale of which thousands were made unless you count different coloured interiors and exteriors. Nowhere near as bespoke either. Versus the road cars the 131 Abarth has independent rear suspension, LSD, all fibreglass and alloy panels apart from the roof, weighs about a tonne, and goes like stink with an unforgettable noise only matched by a BDA/BDG. Out of that 400 run, most of them became works or privateer rally cars and don't exist anymore. One of the best cars I've ever driven, amazing on a back road, and huge propensity to go sideways. Price is about right, one currently up for 220k euros in Italy. They've been at this price for 3-4 years.

jeremyh1

1,475 posts

148 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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We avoided them back in the day because they were a pile of S%%t !
Even the scrappy refused to buy them because there was no metal left for him it had all rotted and got washed down the drain !

180 K for a scrapper Yes the world has gone mad !

bloomen

9,008 posts

180 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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jeremyh1 said:
We avoided them back in the day because they were a pile of S%%t !
You were snowed under with 131 Abarths?

Did you live just outside the Abarth workshop?

jeremyh1

1,475 posts

148 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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bloomen said:
You were snowed under with 131 Abarths?

Did you live just outside their faclilty?
Back then any car could be Diy improved Manufactures logos where not what they are today

They are crap . I would love for those on here to get behind the wheel of one today then come back on here and say its a good car !



bloomen

9,008 posts

180 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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jeremyh1 said:
Back then any car could be Diy improved Manufactures logos where not what they are today

They are crap . I would love for those on here to get behind the wheel of one today then come back on here and say its a good car !
You may want to do a teensy bit more reading about what this particular car actually is.

ZiggyNiva

1,198 posts

207 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/0621/open-roads...

This from a year ago, suggests its not far off the money. As others have said, money no object I'd have it along side (although pics aren't currently working) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275258390155?hash=item4...

Om

2,129 posts

99 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Fantastic. A lot of money but probably about right for what it is.

If you think its just a Fiat 131 like your neighbour used to have you are either ill informed or an idiot. Or both.

biggbn

29,453 posts

241 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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That's a properly pedigreed homologation special, worth every penny in my opinion. Gorgeous

Retro.74

Original Poster:

290 posts

44 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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carinaman said:
Misleading thread title.

It's not just any Fiat is it?

How does it compare to Mk1 and Mk2 Escorts with competition history?

I don't know how good the £66K Capri is, but could this homologation special be worth half a dozen decent Capris?


I've owned Fiats. If I won a lottery roll over I'd consider that Fiat. It's small and I like the colour. I am assuming it has a Lampredi Twin Cam in it.
Sorry it wasn't meant to be misleading, I just assumed that most people seeing it would think it would be a bit special/different type of Fiat, and not something like a 180k Cinquecento


Edited by Retro.74 on Friday 24th June 16:10

aeropilot

39,210 posts

248 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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Retro.74 said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12426424

Another world gone mad moment?

I guess it has some redeeming features to some, quite aggressive looks, wheels, looks in good nick, but struggling to justify anything that comes close to even a quarter of the asking price.

Personally if I wanted something like this would go for an Integrale, and even at their bonkers prices would have a 100k left in my pocket.
Hardly, these are now so rare they've been in the 150k price bracket for a good few years now.

Plus, there are a number of Integrale that have sold recently for more than this 131 Abarth.....

Anyway, Integrale's are common as muck compared to a 131 Abarth Stradale....

They are terrific cars.....apart from the awful uncomfortable seats.

As much a love the 'grale, I'd take this over one any day, but then, the 131 Abarth is more my era, being right wheel drive smile


aeropilot

39,210 posts

248 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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bloomen said:
jeremyh1 said:
Back then any car could be Diy improved Manufactures logos where not what they are today

They are crap . I would love for those on here to get behind the wheel of one today then come back on here and say its a good car !
You may want to do a teensy bit more reading about what this particular car actually is.
Typical of PH these days...... this smile readitneeds to be used more often


Mr Tidy

28,795 posts

148 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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bloomen said:
Never driven a hot Escort but I expect that would be a much more satisfying drive.
You didn't miss much!

I had a couple of Fiat Twin-Cams in the 70s and then bought a MK2 RS2000 Escort in 1983.

OK it was pretty quick as it weighed b*gger-all, but the Pinto was so agricultural compared to a Lampredi twin-cam.

My RS2000 was great fun for a blast but got tiring on longer journeys - I replaced it with a 2.8i Capri that was so much better.

But I love this Fiat. thumbup