Acquiring a log book from a potentially long dead car
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Hi, I would like to acquire the log book for a car that potentially been scrapped (but not recorded as scrap). I’ve looked into getting the owner details but the V888 form doesn’t cover that situation so isn’t applicable.
The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don’t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don’t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
Symptomless Coma said:
Hi, I would like to acquire the log book for a car that potentially been scrapped (but not recorded as scrap). I ve looked into getting the owner details but the V888 form doesn t cover that situation so isn t applicable.
The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
So, it hasn't been scrapped & is owned by someone, you are basically asking how to steal the number plate, really?The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
Apart from that, IIRC the car needs to have an MOT to remove the plate otherwise it just goes back to DVLA, I could be wrong but that is my assumption.
E-bmw said:
So, it hasn't been scrapped & is owned by someone, you are basically asking how to steal the number plate, really?
Apart from that, IIRC the car needs to have an MOT to remove the plate otherwise it just goes back to DVLA, I could be wrong but that is my assumption.
I’d like to contact the owner, V888 form. But DVLA won’t share owner details. But thanks for your unhelpful response.Apart from that, IIRC the car needs to have an MOT to remove the plate otherwise it just goes back to DVLA, I could be wrong but that is my assumption.
Symptomless Coma said:
Hi, I would like to acquire the log book for a car that potentially been scrapped (but not recorded as scrap). I ve looked into getting the owner details but the V888 form doesn t cover that situation so isn t applicable.
The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
If you don't have the VIN number of the car in question, you'll get nowhere with a V62 application, DVLA will just send it back to you, as they will also for the reason that you'll have to give on the V62 for wanting a replacement V5C.The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
aeropilot said:
Symptomless Coma said:
Hi, I would like to acquire the log book for a car that potentially been scrapped (but not recorded as scrap). I ve looked into getting the owner details but the V888 form doesn t cover that situation so isn t applicable.
The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
If you don't have the VIN number of the car in question, you'll get nowhere with a V62 application, DVLA will just send it back to you, as they will also for the reason that you'll have to give on the V62 for wanting a replacement V5C.The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
PistonTim said:
aeropilot said:
Symptomless Coma said:
Hi, I would like to acquire the log book for a car that potentially been scrapped (but not recorded as scrap). I ve looked into getting the owner details but the V888 form doesn t cover that situation so isn t applicable.
The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
If you don't have the VIN number of the car in question, you'll get nowhere with a V62 application, DVLA will just send it back to you, as they will also for the reason that you'll have to give on the V62 for wanting a replacement V5C.The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
Symptomless Coma said:
Hi, I would like to acquire the log book for a car that potentially been scrapped (but not recorded as scrap). I ve looked into getting the owner details but the V888 form doesn t cover that situation so isn t applicable.
The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
My understanding if you want to nick someone's plate is that you could try a V62 application. And then wait to see if DVLA send you a V5 if no response from the keeper they have on file. However, IF they do send you a V5, it is unlikely that the vehicle has either been taxed or SORNed continuously for the last 5 years so you won't be able to transfer the plate off. Even if you then taxed or SORNed the reg number for 5 years, the DVLA may request a vehicle inspection after that. The car last failed its mot in 2011. I don t want the car, just the registration to transfer to a car I own.
Do I go for requesting a v62?
Question for the OP - do you know, or have you tried to establish, who the owner is?
If the owner is known / traceable, the best option would be to contact them with a view to buying what they might consider to be a dead lump of metal, legally and with a useable V5c. I believe you'd still need an MoT to remove the number though.
I understand why the DVLA doesn't allow the V888 to be used in these circumstances.
I believe a V62 application prompts DVLA to attempt contact with the registered keeper, at their last-known address, for a response. I did this once for a Citroen XM that had been dumped at our premises and we successfully got a V5c as there was no trace of the registered keeper.
Rarely does trying to beat the DVLA at their own game work out, in my experience.
If the owner is known / traceable, the best option would be to contact them with a view to buying what they might consider to be a dead lump of metal, legally and with a useable V5c. I believe you'd still need an MoT to remove the number though.
I understand why the DVLA doesn't allow the V888 to be used in these circumstances.
I believe a V62 application prompts DVLA to attempt contact with the registered keeper, at their last-known address, for a response. I did this once for a Citroen XM that had been dumped at our premises and we successfully got a V5c as there was no trace of the registered keeper.
Rarely does trying to beat the DVLA at their own game work out, in my experience.
80quattro said:
My understanding if you want to nick someone's plate is that you could try a V62 application. And then wait to see if DVLA send you a V5 if no response from the keeper they have on file. However, IF they do send you a V5, it is unlikely that the vehicle has either been taxed or SORNed continuously for the last 5 years so you won't be able to transfer the plate off. Even if you then taxed or SORNed the reg number for 5 years, the DVLA may request a vehicle inspection after that.
The vehicle inspection thing is the stumbling block for what the OP wants to do. I have an old car that's still registered in my name despite being scrapped 20+ years ago with a plate assigned to it that people have offered me money for. The DVLA won't even issue a new V5 to me, the registered owner, without evidence the car still exists so I have no hopes if doing the SORN for 5 years before transferring the plate off it.
aterribleusername said:
The vehicle inspection thing is the stumbling block for what the OP wants to do.
I have an old car that's still registered in my name despite being scrapped 20+ years ago with a plate assigned to it that people have offered me money for. The DVLA won't even issue a new V5 to me, the registered owner, without evidence the car still exists so I have no hopes if doing the SORN for 5 years before transferring the plate off it.
Oh. That’s disappointing to hear. Thank you.I have an old car that's still registered in my name despite being scrapped 20+ years ago with a plate assigned to it that people have offered me money for. The DVLA won't even issue a new V5 to me, the registered owner, without evidence the car still exists so I have no hopes if doing the SORN for 5 years before transferring the plate off it.
I'm in a similar situation myself, my dad used to own a Morris Minor that had a private plate on, the car was taken off the road in 1996 for repairs, the garage that was doing the spray job on it eventually closed up shop and moved, taking the MM with them (it had been sat there for about 3 years to be fair awaiting my uncle and dad to finish it ready for respray). Car never to be seen again. Dad never chased it and died in 2018. We have had no letters from the DVLA about this car (parents never moved address etc), but somehow according to one of the car apps its showing as being scrapped legally in 2022.
I've asked DVLA for a subject access request to see who they reckon owns that car and if it has been scrapped, I reckon chances of getting the plate off its are like 0.5% as there is no car to MOT for a start under their rules.
I've asked DVLA for a subject access request to see who they reckon owns that car and if it has been scrapped, I reckon chances of getting the plate off its are like 0.5% as there is no car to MOT for a start under their rules.
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