Barn finds - Are they worth taking on these days?

Barn finds - Are they worth taking on these days?

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classicaholic

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1,987 posts

83 months

Thursday 20th February
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I have looked at a few barn finds in my time and have bought a few projects but with the prices dropping for good examples, is it really worth spending double the cost of buying a good condition runner that someone has already spent the time and money on.

I am expecting that a lot of projects are sitting in garages around the country that are going to come back on the market soon.

POORCARDEALER

8,588 posts

254 months

Thursday 20th February
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Financially usually not.

Cost of work too high.

Could work if you’re doing it all yourself.


FlyVintage

106 posts

4 months

Thursday 20th February
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As has been said already; if looking for some kind of financial return then it’s a big no even if doing much of the work yourself and not accounting for your time.

However, having done quite a few myself, the attitude has to be one of “enjoying the process” and hopefully being around break even at the end. For me at least, the incentive has been to own/work on a car I’d not be able to justify as a mint example. Largely I’ve done OK with the inevitable miss on some, make it up on others approach, but it would take some serious rose tinted specs to see much as a money making opportunity from the outset in todays market.

nismocat

870 posts

21 months

Thursday 20th February
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Barn find.

Usually not lost to be found nor in a barn.

Ambleton

7,063 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th February
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Depends.

I know a chap who bought an A35 from a deceased estate.

The lady hadn't done anything with her husbands cars, who'd died probably 20yrs prior. Car was in a heated, dry garage attached to the house, under blankets and a duvet, above carpet and on axle stands. It only had 10k miles on it when he died and he'd owned is since the early 60s and was always garaged.

A few spots of surface corrosion but honestly it otherwise looked new.

These are the only ones worth buying IMO.

Otherwise they're only mostly good for parts.

Turbobanana

7,069 posts

214 months

Friday 21st February
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Ambleton said:
Depends.

I know a chap who bought an A35 from a deceased estate.

The lady hadn't done anything with her husbands cars, who'd died probably 20yrs prior. Car was in a heated, dry garage attached to the house, under blankets and a duvet, above carpet and on axle stands. It only had 10k miles on it when he died and he'd owned is since the early 60s and was always garaged.

A few spots of surface corrosion but honestly it otherwise looked new.

These are the only ones worth buying IMO.

Otherwise they're only mostly good for parts.
To echo nismocat's point above, that's not really a barn find is it? It's been carefully stored in ideal conditions to preserve as much as possible of its current state.

Or maybe it's waiting for Jonny Smith to come along and stage a miraculous "discovery" smile

CKY

2,201 posts

28 months

Friday 21st February
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POORCARDEALER said:
Financially usually not.

Cost of work too high.

Could work if you’re doing it all yourself.
Correct, last time I spoke with friends of restoring a 'basket case' (as we used to call them) I was recommended a couple of body shops worth looking in to in Poland (from memory); allegedly the cost was far cheaper than getting a car done over here, and the quality of work was equal or better than a few 'restoration specialists' over here.

Although too old now, I always preferred restoring cars myself as I found it a far more comfortable ownership proposition knowing 100% of the car, inside out, top to bottom. Only option i'd prefer to that would be as Ambleton said to buy something original - a car is only original once, and it can save a great deal of time/money/effort in the long run. Even now when visiting bodyshops, I see classic cars in some horrendous states, and the sad thing is maybe 30% of the time the proprietor will tell me "Oh yeah, the bloke has had this donkeys' years, sent it to XX Specialist for a full restoration last year, brought it here for some touch up work and this is what we found lurking beneath..." - beware, there are some unscrupulous people about...

Lester H

3,298 posts

118 months

Wednesday 26th February
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CKY said:
POORCARDEALER said:
Financially usually not.

Cost of work too high.

Could work if you’re doing it all yourself.
Correct, last time I spoke with friends of restoring a 'basket case' (as we used to call them) I was recommended a couple of body shops worth looking in to in Poland (from memory); allegedly the cost was far cheaper than getting a car done over here, and the quality of work was equal or better than a few 'restoration specialists' over here.

Although too old now, I always preferred restoring cars myself as I found it a far more comfortable ownership proposition knowing 100% of the car, inside out, top to bottom. Only option i'd prefer to that would be as Ambleton said to buy something original - a car is only original once, and it can save a great deal of time/money/effort in the long run. Even now when visiting bodyshops, I see classic cars in some horrendous states, and the sad thing is maybe 30% of the time the proprietor will tell me "Oh yeah, the bloke has had this donkeys' years, sent it to XX Specialist for a full restoration last year, brought it here for some touch up work and this is what we found lurking beneath..." - beware, there are some unscrupulous people about...
Both posters correct. The more you start ‘ digging and delving’, the more you find and one thing leads to another ( problem). As the same applies to newer cars, the problem must be compounded with old ones. Messing with classics may be a good way of ‘ getting out of the house’, but as in the case of the so called restoration mentioned above, the car is likely to be a money pit.

jeremyh1

1,441 posts

140 months

Wednesday 26th February
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I don't belive most of it

There are more barn find vehicles now in the UK than there are barns


Maybe they were all in one big barn
Or there has been one in every barn without the barn owners knowing

srob

12,040 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th February
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Are barnfinds worth it? Yes, yes they are!

Last on the road in 1960 when it was dismantled and left in a shed. Now back on the road smile




nismocat

870 posts

21 months

Thursday 27th February
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jeremyh1 said:
I don't belive most of it

There are more barn find vehicles now in the UK than there are barns


Maybe they were all in one big barn
Or there has been one in every barn without the barn owners knowing
Yes, it tickles me when these influencers create content about a "barn find" when in fact they are anything but!

e600

1,444 posts

165 months

Thursday 27th February
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It depends on the car, finding the missing1954 Gullwing Merc GP winner or a 4 door moggie minor.

Ritchie335is

1,931 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th February
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A big issue is the price of parts these days. Everyone is looking for a fortune for everything. Your budget can soon get out of control if you need a lot of them.

classicaholic

Original Poster:

1,987 posts

83 months

Thursday 27th February
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srob said:
Are barnfinds worth it? Yes, yes they are!

Last on the road in 1960 when it was dismantled and left in a shed. Now back on the road smile



Very impressive, well done!

yellow elan

74 posts

84 months

Friday 28th February
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I have done 2 complete restorations on Series 1 land rovers. Makes sence if you can do it all yourself . I dont think I would do a third you have to have a lot of commitment and an understanding wife