Barn find

[Shaw Tarse]

Coming up for auction
Would the number plates be worth anything or would vehicle need an MOT before transferring?

[Hawkshaw]

Shaw Tarse said:

Coming up for auction
Would the number plates be worth anything or would vehicle need an MOT before transferring?

You need an MOT before you can transfer a number plate, and a V5 in your name. Not all plates are transferrable, and it's possible that some of those cars were bought for their plates and may have been transferred already. So, do your homework before bidding! The auction catalogue should state whether the car has any paperwork and whether the the plate is included.

[catso]

Hawkshaw said:

You need an MOT before you can transfer a number plate

Maybe a silly question but is that the case for MOT exempt vehicles that are on the road, i.e. taxed and declared MOT exempt?

[TarquinMX5]

catso said:

Hawkshaw said:

You need an MOT before you can transfer a number plate

Maybe a silly question but is that the case for MOT exempt vehicles that are on the road, i.e. taxed and declared MOT exempt?

Yes; seems odd, but when have govt. policies ever made sense?

[healeyfan]

You used to have to take the car to be inspected or sometimes they would come to you to verify that it actually exists rather than just having a V5. Now they use the MOT as proof that it exists in entirety.

[catso]

OK, thanks for the explanation.

The reason I ask is that my Land Rover has a 'private' plate (actually it's a N.Ireland plate of 3 letters/4 numbers) that a previous owner fitted and I think it's a bit naff so I'd prefer if I could get the original 'A' suffix (1963) plate back.

Presumably I would need to get an MOT even though it's not required as it's MOT exempt due to age but as it's not currently on the road as I'm restoring it, I'd have to do that later.

I have checked online and the original plate has not been re-allocated, is it possible to re-instate the original or do they just give out random plates, does anyone know?

[Hawkshaw]

catso said:

Maybe a silly question but is that the case for MOT exempt vehicles that are on the road, i.e. taxed and declared MOT exempt?

Yes, even if the vehicle is MOT exempt it needs an MOT before the number can be transferred. Basically to prove to the DVLA that it still exists.

[Hawkshaw]

catso said:

OK, thanks for the explanation.

The reason I ask is that my Land Rover has a 'private' plate (actually it's a N.Ireland plate of 3 letters/4 numbers) that a previous owner fitted and I think it's a bit naff so I'd prefer if I could get the original 'A' suffix (1963) plate back.

Presumably I would need to get an MOT even though it's not required as it's MOT exempt due to age but as it's not currently on the road as I'm restoring it, I'd have to do that later.

I have checked online and the original plate has not been re-allocated, is it possible to re-instate the original or do they just give out random plates, does anyone know?

AIUI if you put the private plate on retention or sell it to someone else (which will need an MOT, as said) the original plate should re-instated. It won't have been issued to anyone else. But the rules are not always followed and you may get a random plate of appropriate age.

[catso]

Hawkshaw said:

catso said:

OK, thanks for the explanation.

The reason I ask is that my Land Rover has a 'private' plate (actually it's a N.Ireland plate of 3 letters/4 numbers) that a previous owner fitted and I think it's a bit naff so I'd prefer if I could get the original 'A' suffix (1963) plate back.

Presumably I would need to get an MOT even though it's not required as it's MOT exempt due to age but as it's not currently on the road as I'm restoring it, I'd have to do that later.

I have checked online and the original plate has not been re-allocated, is it possible to re-instate the original or do they just give out random plates, does anyone know?

AIUI if you put the private plate on retention or sell it to someone else (which will need an MOT, as said) the original plate should re-instated. It won't have been issued to anyone else. But the rules are not always followed and you may get a random plate of appropriate age.

Thanks, may look into it when it's back on the road but, already 2 years into the resto and I'm still just a rolling chassis so won't be holding my breath...

[Dapster]

As an aside, there is an awful lot of tat in that collection - cars that would generate plenty of interest if in reasonable nick, but left in a damp barn for 20 years with windows open, maybe not so much

[thegreenhell]

The Bearded Explorer was there a few years ago.

[Ardennes92]

Hawkshaw said:

catso said:

Maybe a silly question but is that the case for MOT exempt vehicles that are on the road, i.e. taxed and declared MOT exempt?

Yes, even if the vehicle is MOT exempt it needs an MOT before the number can be transferred. Basically to prove to the DVLA that it still exists.

Proves it exists but not necessarily in roadworthy condition, depending where the mot was gained!

[skeeterm5]

Hawkshaw said:

Yes, even if the vehicle is MOT exempt it needs an MOT before the number can be transferred. Basically to prove to the DVLA that it still exists.

Possibly a daft question, but if the MoT is being used as proof of existence in this example, would a failed MoT suffice?

[Turbobanana]

skeeterm5 said:

Hawkshaw said:

Yes, even if the vehicle is MOT exempt it needs an MOT before the number can be transferred. Basically to prove to the DVLA that it still exists.

Possibly a daft question, but if the MoT is being used as proof of existence in this example, would a failed MoT suffice?

On the contrary, I think that's an excellent question. I don't know the answer, but my suspicion is that the DVLA would take the opportunity to say that only a valid MoT is acceptable, thus theoretically ensuring the car is at least fit for the road (we all know the vagaries around that, but you get my point).

[thegreenhell]

Turbobanana said:

skeeterm5 said:

Hawkshaw said:

Yes, even if the vehicle is MOT exempt it needs an MOT before the number can be transferred. Basically to prove to the DVLA that it still exists.

Possibly a daft question, but if the MoT is being used as proof of existence in this example, would a failed MoT suffice?

On the contrary, I think that's an excellent question. I don't know the answer, but my suspicion is that the DVLA would take the opportunity to say that only a valid MoT is acceptable, thus theoretically ensuring the car is at least fit for the road (we all know the vagaries around that, but you get my point).

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