Rip off or what ?
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The barmaid's down the local have told me that if at the end of the night that the till takings are out the manager say's that they have to make up the shortfall out of their earnings.
Can this be right ?
They only earn the basic wage per hour and are scared to have a go at the manager, so what do you think they should do !
Drifting
Can this be right ?
They only earn the basic wage per hour and are scared to have a go at the manager, so what do you think they should do !
Drifting
drifting said:
Not illegal - common in pub trade, staff are responsinble for ringing up corectly.
But is it legal ?
Thought I would add that if someone on the till at tesco's and then get's it wrong ( Daughter works for them part time ) is it right that she should be liable for more than she earn's.
Drifting
drifting said:
Not illegal - common in pub trade, staff are responsinble for ringing up corectly.
But is it legal ?
I think it is if its in your contract - obviously if there was a "hold up" or orbbery they wouldn't be liable. Pubs I have worked in would always manage to reconcile the till to a few pennies over a day ( taking up to £6,000 on a busy day.
alfaman said:
drifting said:
alfaman said:
Not illegal - common in pub trade, staff are responsinble for ringing up corectly.
But is it legal ?
I think it is if its in your contract - obviously if there was a "hold up" or orbbery they wouldn't be liable. Pubs I have worked in would always manage to reconcile the till to a few pennies over a day ( taking up to £6,000 on a busy day.
Trouble is this place that I am talking about is saying £20 odd on a regular basis, and I have got say that I used to run pub's and nightclubs myself in the old ages (70's) but don't know the how the law stand's at the moment.
Drifting
>> Edited by drifting on Saturday 8th January 01:20
Think its pretty out of order, tell em to find another job. The petrol station I have been working at over christmas have a +/- £3 limit, any more than that we get a little telling off. Seems silly because they dont take into account the fact that errors will add up as till take increases, but then really I shouldnt make errors! Was £200 down in the summer when we were hit with the end of Bug Jam and the Moto GP coming through (J12, Toddington on M1). Was having to run transactions through without taking payment simply to process other transactions because customers are stupid and tell you the wrong pump.
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drifting said:
The barmaid's down the local have told me that if at the end of the night that the till takings are out the manager say's that they have to make up the shortfall out of their earnings.
Can this be right ?
They only earn the basic wage per hour and are scared to have a go at the manager, so what do you think they should do !
Drifting
But on the nights the till is over do the staff get given the extra ? Or are the tills mysteriously never over
It is possible that the manager suspects one of the staff is "dipping", and by making the staff responsible for shortages is he trying to reduce the "theft". Its probably not illegal, but its also not very ethical.
Definitely illegal, no question, you cannot make employees financially responsible for mistakes made in the course of their employment. If they can't operate a till properly then the correct course is to sack them. If they are stealing then the correct course is to catch them and prosecute them.
If its a round £5, £10, £20 going missing...could be theft, or the bar staff giving too much change, ie. customer gives a £10 for the round, gets £10 + change back.
Don't put the customer's money into the till until you've double checked the change against it minimised the risk, also stops the customer saying, 'I gave you a £20 note' when they only gave you a £10.
Didn't think you could enforce bar staff to make it up, but its been a few years since I pulled a pint!
Don't put the customer's money into the till until you've double checked the change against it minimised the risk, also stops the customer saying, 'I gave you a £20 note' when they only gave you a £10.
Didn't think you could enforce bar staff to make it up, but its been a few years since I pulled a pint!
This is a bit difference, when I worked in banking, i used to have to cover for the chief cashier when she went on holiday or was sick etc.... frequently our tills were out and anything over £100 at the end of the night ended up with all the till needing to be recounted, and checked by someone different, the cash in the safe run through the machines to check that it wasntover or under and all the coin in the coin safe weighed and checked. It used to worry me to death sometimes as we could be thousands of pounds under or over at a time. it was usually found in the morning, but the worrying i did at night made me change my career in the end as it was kind of my responsibilty to get the tills to balance and the books up straight in the morning, and the guilt of keeping everyone late in the evening checking the money - I'd never been so stressed!!
Jane x
Jane x
when I worked in a bar (in the dim and distant past) the bar manager instructed us to ensure the tills were over, and showed how to achieve this without getting caught! The excess was shared out as 'tips', it did however require the ability to add up mentally, something that youngsters these days seem unable to do!!
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