Fraudulant Benefit Claimants!
Fraudulant Benefit Claimants!
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v15ben

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16,110 posts

263 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Time for a rant guys:

Was cycling through town today, went past the job centre, where many seemingly unemployed people can afford to be smoking, drinking and using flash mobile phones at the same time!
However, I was astonished when I saw a young guy (early 20s) in full Fred perry tracksuit, sunglasses etc etc walk out of the job centre clutching a pay cheque. He then threw his half empty Red Bull can on the floor and got into a brand new Peugeot 206 CC with full bodykit, Lexus lights etc etc which was parked on a side street out of view of the job centre.
He was looking behind him repeatedly and sped off to avoid being seen!

Is it just me who thinks this equation doesn't add up? I wish I could afford to drive a brand new £15k car at my age without a job!

Feel free to rant away, I felt like lamping him

>>> Edited by v15ben on Wednesday 12th January 17:04

Harry Flashman

21,235 posts

264 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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You should have taken down tha car's number and shopped him.

He could of course be in between jobs and looking for work, in which case, having paid his taxes, fair play in claiming job seeker's allowance. However, you should have mentioned it to the authorities, and they could have ascertained whether this was the case.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

261 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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I remember going to the benefit office about 15 years ago. I was contracting and between jobs so it was all legit. Brand new bike, brand new leathers and helmet etc.
The conversation went something along the lines of

Clerk "Will you be available for work next week?"
Me "No, sorry"
Clerk "Why not?"
Me "I'm going to LA"
Clerk "I'm on the wrong side of the counter" Said with a wry grin.

Things aren't always as they seem.....

Karen182

4,214 posts

256 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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I was made redundant a couple of years ago just before Christmas so I signed on inbetween jobs and yes I was still smoking, still drinking, still using my mobile phone and still driving a brand new car all probably a lot more than when I was working... it's very difficult to judge unless you know the individual's circumstances.

Jinx

11,881 posts

282 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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I think the discrepency is that the guy was clutching a cheque - when I was on jobseekers I still had the monies paid to my bank account.

birdbrain

1,564 posts

261 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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It's also possible he was driving someone else's car.

raceboy

13,620 posts

302 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Well having told my last boss to shove it, and with it being the Christams period with the only vacancies being Santa I'm still signing on, and the lack of car parking spaces at my local labour exchange is disgracefull, sometimes I have to stick the TVR on the double yellows

Harry Flashman

21,235 posts

264 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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That chimaera is a gorgeous colour, Raceboy. It is Aston Sage Green? Always wanted to paint my old MGB V8 that colour. Lovely.

hedders

24,460 posts

269 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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raceboy said:
Well having told my last boss to shove it, and with it being the Christams period with the only vacancies being Santa I'm still signing on, and the lack of car parking spaces at my local labour exchange is disgracefull, sometimes I have to stick the TVR on the double yellows



And here was me feeling guilty mooring the Daimler up outside my local Job centre last year

raceboy

13,620 posts

302 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Cheers, it's actually a VW colour a bit brighter than the Aston one and a bit darker than Ocean green

Eric Mc

124,717 posts

287 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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How dare you assume that this indiviual had used his benefit money to buy and drive around in a brand new car.

He probably nicked it.

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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I think we're judging by appearences way too much here - it's highly likely he was just between jobs. Unless you followed him around all day you wouldn't know.

The problem cases are the people who are simply put, plain lazy, literally living off benefits (and draining them from the people who really need them) because it's a regular income and doing nothing is more enticing than work.

The solution? Well, those benefits need to be lower, and the minimum wage higher, so as not to create and overlap - the poverty trap. It needs ironing out. Thatcher noticed this (but unfortunately made her move during the country's biggest unemployment crisis). However, nowadays we don't have an unemployment problem, and Bliar just put the poverty trap back (probably to make some more potential voters grateful for him ).

This bloke doesn't sound like the problem - it's the ones who tootle in on the bus having spent all their money on fags and booze to pick up another cheque and do it all again that are the problem.

I don't think you'd be able to afford that sort of car on a low-level benefits scam.

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

270 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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All it says to me is that folks signing on have got just as much right to wear scrotes uniform and drive a questionable chav chariot as anyone else (even if it was new, a 206CC with Lexus lights is most definately a chav chariot).

v15ben

Original Poster:

16,110 posts

263 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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OK, might have under-estimated this one, just looked a bit suspect to me in the circumstances

wedg1e

27,003 posts

287 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Eric Mc said:
How dare you assume that this indiviual had used his benefit money to buy and drive around in a brand new car.

He probably nicked it.


Hey Eric, you're getting the hang of this humour thing...

BliarOut

72,863 posts

261 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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v15ben said:
OK, might have under-estimated this one, just looked a bit suspect to me in the circumstances


Hang on......

v15ben said:
Fred Perry tracksuit

Shop the bastard. No one who works for their money would be seen dead buying one of those

xxplod

2,269 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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The solution is to cut unemployment benefit for anyone able-bodied. There must be an incentive to get a job.

Whilst we're at it, we can cut child benefit apart from for the first child. Have as many brats as you like, just don't ask me to oay for them.

And inheritance tax, which is just plain obscene.

gopher

5,160 posts

281 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Whilst never one to judge by the cover (story) having spent some 9 years doling out dole to the worthy and (largely) to the un-worthy he does sound quite geniune.

IME the real dossers know exactly what to look like, how to act, how not to make themselves interesting or worthy of a second glance.

Lots of them think they are being clever, fiddling the system and working etc, but in truth the majority are scum, living in sh1tholes and spend most of their time in gutters.

You do get exceptions of course, I remember very clearly the armed arrests (suspects likely armed we were told) at one of the Wolverhampton UBO's when 3 of the local pimps brought their girls to collect their giro's. (couldn't post them they kept getting "lost").They are the real bastards and there's a lot of them, the others are a pain in the arse but will either cost us in giro's or food and shelter at her Majesties pleasure. The majority are however genuine and usually between jobs. (IMO)

Cheers

Paul

silverback mike

11,292 posts

275 months

Wednesday 12th January 2005
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Must admit, I was a bit miffed last week. I attended a suitable burger type place with my son to consume a scooby snack, only to realise I had hardly enough on me to buy anything worthwhile.

In barges a tracksuit clad 'lady' with seven kids ranging from about 7 to 14...being pretty obnoxious.
"Mum, I want this, I want that from 7 open mouths....'OW much mum...."

The reply.....whilst pulling a wad of notes out....

"Don't worry, I had my giro paid in today"