Should I feel insecure?
Should I feel insecure?
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KingRichard

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10,146 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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Found out today that about 90% of my new colleagues can't stand me...

I can see why, I was recruited to push business forward in a tough market and an underperforming company.

Also, I was brought on board as many others were made redundant and I think this may fuel the animosity.

All I've done is come in and do my job, trying to build bridges with staff, i've never had any problems with staff or colleagues before on this scale.

I've trodden on a few toes by winning several sales awards in my first month with the company... can people really be that resentful towards an achiever?

The only reason I want to repair this situation is because I want to finish my work and move the company forwards... As far as personal feeling goes, I really couldn't give a rats ring-piece.

I have a far reaching circle of friends and a rich social life... Should I actually get worried by this? Am I a bastid for not caring?

Only really interested in the psychological reasons behind this, it's a situation where I would normally feel pretty hurt. It intrigues me why this has suddenly happened
BTW relationship with the Partners/MD is Hunky Dory

Your opinions puhleeeeeeese

2 Smokin Barrels

31,703 posts

257 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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1) It's obviously worrying you, or you wouldn't have posted this!
2) Get em together & have an honesty session.
3) Then get em pissed & find out the truth!!

Good luck!

t1grm

4,657 posts

306 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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From your profile I see you’re an estate agent. The 90% of your colleagues not being able to stand you should be the least of your worries

No seriously… I wouldn’t worry about it. They’re probably just jealous. Do they have the power to hire or fire you? Is whether you get paid or not controlled by them? Is there a clause in your contract that says one of your responsibilities is to have a good social relationship with all members of staff? If as I suspect the answer to all the aforementioned is no then f**k them.

Out of interest how did you find out 90% of them can’t stand you? If another employee told you it may just be one person that feels threatened by you causing mischief.


>> Edited by t1grm on Thursday 13th January 23:26

wolf1

3,091 posts

272 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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You will always be resented when others have been made redundant. Grow a thick skin and forget them. In your job you snooze you lose! Smile be pleasant but basically sod em. Oh and don't try the team building/honesty thing, your in sales and it's every man/person for themselves.

Sorry just the way I see it.

shirley temple

2,232 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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'em!! if they cant stand the heat,they should get out of the kitchen, Having worked in a competitive sales environment, real salesmen would be up for the challenge of a new 'achiever' Order taking boot lickers (weak sales managers employ these types)will give up and whinge about someone who is successefull.Sales men are judged on results,not on popularity in my experience.

Estate agents are however,just judged

sparkythecat

8,059 posts

277 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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Sounds like you may have a serious personal hygiene or appearance problem of which you are unaware and which your close friends are reluctant to point out.

You did mention that your friends form a large circle round you.

This sounds significant.

So instead of asking us to cast some light on the complex psychological issues that may be affecting your colleagues, you must first ask yourself the answer to this simple question










" Am I whiffy"

KingRichard

Original Poster:

10,146 posts

254 months

Thursday 13th January 2005
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sparkythecat said:
Sounds like you may have a serious personal hygiene or appearance problem of which you are unaware and which your close friends are reluctant to point out.

You did mention that your friends form a large circle round you.

This sounds significant.

So instead of asking us to cast some light on the complex psychological issues that may be affecting your colleagues, you must first ask yourself the answer to this simple question










" Am I whiffy"


KingRichard

Original Poster:

10,146 posts

254 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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nah its come from a couple of people, but none of the names mentioned have any power over me, unless 'in with the MD' which u can't get round...

Theres only 2 other guys in the company that I actually have any respect for... as sales people that is, they may not be much cop now but they are hard working and keen, but management don't seem to have a pro-active 'team' of sales people at the top of the agenda... pretty strange for an estate agency.

More to the point, should I jump ship if no-one will take good advice seriously?

I have been a major part of three different estate agents in three different areas. I don't want to blow my own trumpet, but they were the top ranking agents in towns, due to the fact that I was pushing a team forward, either by example (tea boy outselling the branch manager ) or by management as I moved up the ranks.

I'm only 23, do you reckon i'm flogging a dead horse with this one?

wolf1

3,091 posts

272 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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Did you join to make friends or money? Answer that and then choose!

KingRichard

Original Poster:

10,146 posts

254 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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Money, but need a team to do it i'm afraid, estate agency isn't all about every man for himself...

Everything comes full circle, and bites your 'arris

as a lot of shitester agents are finding out...

I just view it as a project to work on, but I don't feel any passion for the core values... prob cos there isn't any

shirley temple

2,232 posts

254 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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KingRichard said:
do you reckon i'm flogging a dead horse with this one?



isn't that vixpys speciality? or is it some thing to do with bestiallity n S&M?

PMSL

>> Edited by shirley temple on Friday 14th January 02:31

singlecoil

35,741 posts

268 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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One quick question, others get made redundant and you get brought in. Is redundancy the right word in that situation? Only if you were brought in to fill a position that had nothing to do with those that were made redundant. In which case, what's anyone got to complain about?

titiany

2,122 posts

254 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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Sire ,

There's every reason for you to take this to heart - after all, you are with your colleagues more than you are with your mates.

1. If you choose to sell something... anything, for a living, then you are going to surrounded by a bunch of egos - competitive ones at that.
2. You are 23. People detest young upstarts, particularly if they swan in threatening their territory.
3. You were taken on to improve things, translation: you're a wasser who thinks these wonderful sales gods are all crap at their jobs and you can do it far better. At 23.
4. If you are good looking, this intrusion will be far worse.
5. Everything you say will be twisted into the negative. You will be regarded as cocky, arrogant, and thick, despite the fact that you may never have said a word. Your character has been rewritten for you.

Options.

1. Leave. Have a happy daytime life, and be safe in the knowledge that they won, you lost.
2. Stay, shove your nose in the air and completely ignore them. Give them as little fodder as possible for criticism. Do your job and prove that you are there for a reason and you are, indeed, better than them.
Then go home, have a pint with your mates, and forget they exist.

We work to live, not live to work, after all. I would opt for number 2. Do your job, earn your cash, go home. x

Bat21

652 posts

270 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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If this company are pinning their hopes of salvation on your 23years on this plannet, they are well and truly F***ed! Move on!

If you still want to be an Estate Agent, get at least another three years of life experiance and then I may even think about offering you an interview.

The fact is, that we are in a very difficult market, few front line staff in Estate Agency will have experianced anything like this. Those with the experiance should be giving direction and encouragment. What is happening in a lot of companies is that they are all sitting around with their thumbs up their bums and their minds in neutral, waiting for Spring.
If you pick up the phone and talk to people sensibly, you will make sales, there is no need to be flash or brash, just get on with the job.

BLOW PW

97 posts

258 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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Don't worry about it. Its not a popularity contest, you're there to do a job & earn a living.
I was moved from being delivery driver to the office about 3 years ago now. Logistics manager & sales for an engineering firm. Getting it from both sides, shop floor think I'm now a deserter, office staff think I'm just a jumped up delivery boy.
Don't care what they think, must be doing a good job as I'm still doing it after 3 years, the company hasn't gone under & getting paid a lot more than before.
Stuff 'em !!

KingRichard

Original Poster:

10,146 posts

254 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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titiany said:
Sire ,
x


heres hoping your not a bloke

KingRichard

Original Poster:

10,146 posts

254 months

Friday 14th January 2005
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Bat21 said:
If this company are pinning their hopes of salvation on your 23years on this plannet, they are well and truly F***ed! Move on!

If you still want to be an Estate Agent, get at least another three years of life experiance and then I may even think about offering you an interview.



Are you in agency as well then?

I'm still making sales, not many in this market granted, gone are the days of booking 18 sales a month!

I can't really see a way through the sticky patch though. Don't scoff at me being 23 years young with this, but I need an income to continue with my lifestyle... which is not excessive btw! I'm not going to work to make sure someones baby stays alive and not getting rewarded for it...

back o/t this problem just agravates the situation.

Its not about winning or losing, I just want to be happy at work, and thay are the biggest bunch of ws i've ever worked for!

I've worked for some pretty poor company's but always had something to learn from them, or something constructive to say... I'm a bit lost for words TBH


HiRich

3,337 posts

284 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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A simple litms test, and possible solution:

Around 5 o'clock, stick your head up and say "Anyone fancy a pint?"
- If you get no replies after two attempts, sod'em
- If it works, you'll be able to break down the barriers gradually

Be prepared to use your own money (though try for expenses). Also, rather than use it to celebrate a sale (of your own), do it when smeone else makes a sale, or (most effectively), when everyone's had a bad day.
I worked with a guy who was a master at this. You have a couple of beers (or more) talk about business, problems, or just anything, and clear the air. It's easy to do, spontaneous, and far more effective than than ponderously organised events.