Cultural question about Liverpool

[just dave]

I've worked with 3 English guys, one from near London, one from Southhampton and one from Liverpool. The guy from Liverpool took a never-ending stream of abuse from the other two.

Why was that? No one else in the group had a problem with the guy, just his ex-countrymen.

Just curious,

Dave

[ywouldi]

Calm Down, Calm Down

The above pic is an archetypal scouser, also see Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

In the UK scousers (or liverpudlians as they are otherwise known) are renowned for nicking stuff and being general theives and scallies. We have a liverpudlian housemate and he is also a source of constant ridicule, they all are (scousers that it)

Ben

>> Edited by ywouldi on Friday 14th January 06:56

[shirley temple]

cultural question? about Liverpool?

[tycho]

ywouldi said:

Calm Down, Calm Down The above pic is an archetypal scouser, also see Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. In the UK scousers (or liverpudlians as they are otherwise known) are renowned for nicking stuff and being general theives and scallies. We have a liverpudlian housemate and he is also a source of constant ridicule, they all are (scousers that it) Ben >> Edited by ywouldi on Friday 14th January 06:56

The reputation that us Scousers have for nicking things etc is completely unjustified and a load of boll0cks. Any other race/region etc would never have had to put up with this but because we just take it and don't let it bother us, people still do it. Water off a ducks back mate.

P.S. The only people I have seen in Liverpool with haircuts like that is memebers of the 70's and 80's Liverpool Football Team.

>> Edited by tycho on Friday 14th January 10:06

[JonRB]

Harry Enfield and Brookside have a lot to answer for.

I did my 1st degree at Liverpool Poly back in the late 80's / early 90's and it wasn't at all like that. Well, not much anyway.

Having said that, the reason that Harry Enfield's scouser characters have been so popular is that they do strike a chord with many people's experiences of Liverpudlians.

[pdV6]

JonRB said:

Having said that, the reason that Harry Enfield's scouser characters have been so popular is that they do strike a chord with many people's experiences of Liverpudlians.

Actually, I think they stike a chord with people's experiences of what would now be termed "chavs" (i.e. not necessarily region-dependent), but the scouse accent is very distinctive, lending itself to the Harry Enfield sketches.

[planetdave]

Has anyone else noticed that there are always more cars leaving Liverpool than going in?

[TheGroover]

JonRB said:

I did my 1st degree at Liverpool Poly back in the late 80's / early 90's and it wasn't at all like that. Well, not much anyway.

Hey JonRB, I was there at the same time. Did Biochemistry so was in Byrom Street building, what degree did you do?
Spent many a happy hour in the Hague!

[RobDickinson]

anonymous said:

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Ofcourse KK is from Yorkshire and not a scouser, and everybody had mad bad hair in the 70's didnt they?

As for liverpool, theres more crime in several UK cities, top one being Manchester, which IMO is more of a dump than liverpool , though neither are the worlds nicest place.

Its still stuffed full of tracksuit wearing scallys and large parts of it should be cleansed with an orbital laser.

But as the OP said, if your a scoucer its a ticket to constant ridicule and abuse, if it was a recognised minority we'd be protected and you'd be in serious trouble for the crap we recieve. Its totaly beyond a joke and way into abuse usualy.

[JonRB]

TheGroover said:

JonRB said: I did my 1st degree at Liverpool Poly back in the late 80's / early 90's and it wasn't at all like that. Well, not much anyway. Hey JonRB, I was there at the same time. Did Biochemistry so was in Byrom Street building, what degree did you do? Spent many a happy hour in the Hague!

I did Physics. Unfortunately I can't even remember the name of the site any more. It was next to a load of flyovers though - was that Byrom Street? The name rings a bell.

[RobDickinson]

Twas Byrom street by the sound of it.

[Trommel]

Much maligned place. Way, way better than Manchester, Birmingham, Sheffield etc IMO. Theft and crime also lower than in those cities.

Manchester produces the dodgiest scallies, no question, but every large city has identical tracksuit/Elizabeth Duke/Rockport scum - they just sound different.

[TheGroover]

JonRB said:

TheGroover said: JonRB said: I did my 1st degree at Liverpool Poly back in the late 80's / early 90's and it wasn't at all like that. Well, not much anyway. Hey JonRB, I was there at the same time. Did Biochemistry so was in Byrom Street building, what degree did you do? Spent many a happy hour in the Hague! I did Physics. Unfortunately I can't even remember the name of the site any more. It was next to a load of flyovers though - was that Byrom Street? The name rings a bell.

That sounds like Byrom Street alright.

[tycho]

I have to be perfectly honest, most inner cities are the same as each other. Look at Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham etc and you'd find the same problems and they would look very similar unless you go and look for the better parts.

Liverpool has some of the best architecture in the world from the trading times down by the docks and it would be good if the people who slag it off actually went there rather than have a go as most of them have never actually been. I have to say, it is much better than the hellhole called London.

As someone earlier said, if you gave Asians, Blacks, anyone else the same amount of abuse as Scousers get, you'd be in so much trouble but most of us don't care and give as good as we get about you Southern Softie Shandy Drinkers.

[JonRB]

Yes, I think it was Byrom Street. It certainly rings a bell at any rate.

I was there from 1988 to 1992 (but since it was a 'thick sandwich course' I was away for the academic year of 1990/91)

Lived in Aigburth for my 1st year and then the area near Penny Lane (I forget what it's called) for my 2nd and 4th years.

I enjoyed my time there, but I've never been back as I have no friends still there and it's an awfully long way to travel to just for a bit of nostalgia.

[TheGroover]

JonRB said:

Yes, I think it was Byrom Street. It certainly rings a bell at any rate. I was there from 1988 to 1992 (but since it was a 'thick sandwich course' I was away for the academic year of 1990/91) Lived in Aigburth for my 1st year and then the area near Penny Lane (I forget what it's called) for my 2nd and 4th years. I enjoyed my time there, but I've never been back as I have no friends still there and it's an awfully long way to travel to just for a bit of nostalgia.

I was there '88 to '92 as well! Lived in Tuebrook and Walton. It was a cracking place to be a student, it really was. We went back about 4 yrs ago for a mate who was on the course's stag do. Bold street had improved no end with loads of nice bars having been opened. It was still a cracking night out.
A freind of a freind was on the Physics course then, I think, a girl called Laura. I seem to remember she joined the Army ...

[JonRB]

TheGroover said:

A freind of a freind was on the Physics course then, I think, a girl called Laura. I seem to remember she joined the Army ...

Small world. I remember Laura. Pretty gorgeous lass with light-brunette hair as I recall. I think most of the lads on the course fancied her.

[just dave]

Ok, I think I get the picture.
This guy was getting worked over because of the area of England he came from. So if I get this correct, people from the North are percieved as slow, thick and not sophiscated?

And the Southerners are so much more witty, urbane and intelligent?

Exactly the opposite of what happens in the States.

Thank,

Dave

[glocko]

[just dave]

Glocko,

Whatever those buildings are, they are beautiful.