Working replica machine guns
Working replica machine guns
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BMGM3

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10,480 posts

265 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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After a late night viewing of Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels, I'm wondering where film companies get working replica guns, like the Bren gun used in this film and also how they work and the legality of owning one and what do they cost ?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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They are rented from a specialist company which is licensed to own and operate replica's of that authenticity.

I think a ban was brought in on the unlicensed public owning anything along those lines.

AJLintern

4,338 posts

285 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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I can't imagine you being 'allowed' to own a working replica Bren gun! You can get a deactivated one though, or maybe a replica BB type gun.
My mate had a deactivated Bren - was a nice ornament in his bathroom!

love machine

7,609 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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When I was at 6th form, there was a guy who had a working Mauser machine pistol. He bought 2, one with a blocked barrel and one with an incomplete mechanism.

One of the local farmers has got an anti-aircraft gun. They use it for blowing long range stuff away. Supersonic bullets as well. I think that was an antique fair turnup. Don't know where they get the ammo from

BMGM3

Original Poster:

10,480 posts

265 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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Ok . I just found this on the net www.floridagunworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FG&Product_Code=197&Category_Code=

Would I get picked up my MI5 for trying to import this ?

love machine

7,609 posts

257 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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To be quite honest, this thread will probably get flagged up as is.

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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I did a film with the cinematography society last year involving a lot of guns, and the number of calls to security (and once, to the armed response unit ) that were made meant parts of it had to be rewritten to put the shooting scenes indoors, at night, or in the middle of nowhere

philthy

4,697 posts

262 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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BMGM3 said:
Ok . I just found this on the net www.floridagunworks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FG&Product_Code=197&Category_Code=

Would I get picked up my MI5 for trying to import this ?


You'd be amazed at some of the things the royal mail find when they x-ray stuff. RPG launcher anyone??

Phil

ofcorsa

3,542 posts

265 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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alot of films use prop guns and CGI the bullets, those filmed in america can use just about all they want, with rpg and grenades simulated by pyros

hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

262 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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Why bother with replicas or deactivated guns? The Yanks just need a Class 3 licence to own the real thing.

Full auto gets expensive though. The guns are not cheap and one goes through a good bit of ammo quite rapidly...

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

268 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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YOu can have a blank firing hand gun in the UK, but you are not to have in in a public place or use it in a threatening manner.

Edit for awful spelling!

>> Edited by Extra 300 Driver on Sunday 16th January 12:58

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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Same goes for swords. I have a samurai sword at my house at uni that my Mum said she'd throw in the bin if I took it into her house (she reckons that everyone who owns one will have their house broken into by a homicidal burglar who skewers them with it, or will go on a killing spree, or will be suspected of murder by the local police force and sentenced to life improsonment), which of course would make her the illegal one, as as soon as the bin men find it in their truck, they'll assume we're trying to conceal evidence or something.

hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

262 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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Extra 300 Driver said:
...you are not to have in in a public place or use it in a threatening manor.


How, exactly, can a manor be threatening?

ofcorsa

3,542 posts

265 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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UK blank firers also cannot be muzzel venting

shirley temple

2,232 posts

254 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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a friend of mine collects deactivated guns,, current legal requirements for this now requires the guns to have welded mechanisms so that they cease to be 'field stripable' as well as pluged barrels and drilled breaches.They effectively become very ugly ornaments IMHO.

As I understand it from a film industry contact, the chances are that the bren used in Lock Stock is probably a working original gun, modified, so to be classified as a "stage prop" and would fully function, the barrel "blockage" would be a form of mesh, to permit blanks to 'flame' out of the barrel, but would prevent a bullet from being fired.

just gonna get my anorak

g_attrill

8,700 posts

268 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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Generally film companies in the UK use a licensed expert who is allowed to keep and use firearms that aren't licensenable to the public. The guns are usually capable of being used live but are fired with blanks, possibly special compositions to give the flame effect.

The other option is guns which are modified to give a kick-back and fire propane flames. Since they would be adding a foley (sound effect track) anyway this is probably a lot cheaper.

I would STRONGLY recommend that people don't aquire any kind of weapon (de-ac or blank firer) from outside the UK without the deal being handled by a UK firearms dealer. The recent changes in the law mean that you could be imprisoned for five years if you get it wrong.

Gareth

Fatboy

8,251 posts

294 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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v8thunder said:
Same goes for swords. I have a samurai sword at my house at uni that my Mum said she'd throw in the bin if I took it into her house (she reckons that everyone who owns one will have their house broken into by a homicidal burglar who skewers them with it, or will go on a killing spree, or will be suspected of murder by the local police force and sentenced to life improsonment), which of course would make her the illegal one, as as soon as the bin men find it in their truck, they'll assume we're trying to conceal evidence or something.

I take it she has no kitchen knives then

Mothers, got to love their logic

AJLintern

4,338 posts

285 months

Sunday 16th January 2005
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How about one of these...



www.bbguns.co.uk/852_1_15390.html