Charles 'Turpin' Kennedy...oh bloody hell!
Charles 'Turpin' Kennedy...oh bloody hell!
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granville

Original Poster:

18,764 posts

283 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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You want disaster, economic ruination and accelerated social malaise?

Then please, do anything not to elect this turkey. He is quite simply, dangerous.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4180525.stm

So, 50% over £100k/year, eh?

How about £10/gallon, too?

What an absolutely clueless, loathsome pleb.



beano500

20,854 posts

297 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Was that a misprint for "Turnip".....






...although I've known brighter vegetables I must admit!





Do you think he could ORGANISE a P155 up in a brewery?

dazren

22,612 posts

283 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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beano500 said:
Do you think he could ORGANISE a P155 up in a brewery?

Unlikely, although I've heard he lives in a distillery.......

DAZ

FourWheelDrift

91,767 posts

306 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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British Liberal Broadcasting Corporation said:

Mr Kennedy said his party could save £5bn for each year of a four year parliament.



What exactly for I wonder? Saving means they are still taking the £5billion generated in hard earned taxes but not doing anything productive with it except keep it, what for, a rainy day?

If they aren't taking the £5billion at all then they will have a shortfall and not have £5billion to spend on the country (hospitals, police, Doctors, education etc....need I go on.)

Rack, ruin, sell up and leave.

>> Edited by FourWheelDrift on Monday 17th January 16:06

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Well, judging by their manifestos I can quite clearly say that there is no such thing as 'right and left' in politics, just 'pragmatism and theory'. To be honest, the Tories have one of the most left-wing policies on crime I've seen in some time. And that's a good thing, because it's pragmatic.

Look at the parties - Labour might be out of control and out of hand, but at least when you dig deep enough you do find some 'real world' policies. The Tories have had time to rethink their strategy and have policies that look like they'll work. The Lib Dems on the other hand are planning to govern straight out of textbooks (although I agree with them cracking down on drug dealers), and all they'll do is simultaneously muck up the economy and continue to ask for more cash through taxation that they just squander on stuff that people don't actually want

Why oh why does anyone vote for these people? If you can't find anyone you don't like, don't vote, simple as, don't say 'ooh, let's give them a chance'.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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So lets piss off the people in this country who support all the spongers.

Sharp move that Charles.

Not heard of the term 'brain drain' have we?

If this nonsense policy of taxing the rich out of sight continues what happens when they have all left?

wolves_wanderer

12,916 posts

259 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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v8thunder said:
Why oh why does anyone vote for these people? If you can't find anyone you don't like, don't vote, simple as, don't say 'ooh, let's give them a chance'.


Someone I know (I hesitate to use the word friend) intends to vote for them because "they are in between labour and the tories" Unfortunately I don't think that is by any means a unique view amongst the pondlife.

JonRB

79,250 posts

294 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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FFS, tonker. You should be out hugging trees and knitting lentils into sandals for deprived children rather than earning £100k+, you capitalist bastard!

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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My problem is that people approach their vote as if it isn't something important. Sorry, but if you aren't going to read each party's manifesto - and that doesn't mean their election pledges or their campaigns, but what they intend to do that you can hold them to account for - then you shouldn't be voting. It's like buying a car by walking into a showroom and saying, Little Britain Andy-style, "I want that one", because by the time you've said "I don't like it", it'll be too late.

My problem is that the undecideds are drawn to parties for the wrong reasons and parties (though I don't blame them, it's how they work after all) exploit it, so you get to choose, not on policies or differences that will affect you, but on the Maggie-haunted Vampire, the smarmy grinning liar who likes to wage war, or, err...this is a new one, we'll have this one

And has anyone else noticed that Lib Dem councillors all look like overstressed 40-something mothers with nothing to live for?

tallbloke

10,376 posts

305 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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derestrictor said:
pleb.

That'll be why he said:

"We are the common factor in this general election,"

docevi1

10,430 posts

270 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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I used to think that Charles Kennedy was a decent politican and indeed the Lib Dems were very good alternative for politics, I've changed my tune today!

As council, they are great - we have a great service by the Lib Dems here in Gateshead and I'll fully support them in the next council elections but how can I vote for them in the General Election?

I have aspirations and desires and while I doubt I'll ever reach the dizzy heights of earning £100k, this sort of policy makes me wonder if it's worth bothering - if I do all of a sudden I only make £50k a year...

Pointless, stupid, rediculous and darn right dangerous idea!

sj78

3,610 posts

253 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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It's not just those earning £100k at risk from Ginger Chaz....

If the Lib Dems' policy on the local income tax is still what they were a couple of months ago, DINKYs would get it hard and fast up the *** from the Lib Dems as it would favours single-income families with kids and coffin dodgers - a nice touch from a party trying to line up voters for the future... Stick your policies where the sun doesn't shine thanks

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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What I just fail to understand is why they like stamping on people with ambition. If they got into power there'd be no incentive for earning over £100k or aspiring to a big house or a nice car, but there would be a reason to smoke pot and spend your life either on the dole or doing endless degrees and having children you couldn't afford to look after.

At least Labour social engineering wants us all in the faceless suburbs. It sounds like this lot want us in the gutter. The Tories, on the other hand, are going to leave it up to you to be who you want to be, and that's why they get my vote.

docevi1

10,430 posts

270 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Oh and while I'm here, I noticed the Tories predicted savings on the budget and the like - saving £35billion.

Well, they say there will be £5billion in tax cuts, but the taxes they say will be reduced are further taxes that don't affect us now (i.e. Inheritance tax), so saying there will be Tax "cuts" means in reality they will reduce them now but raise them again in a few years

Either way, Tories have to better than blumin Labour with their bickering, lying, blatant deception and disgraceful attitude to middle England!

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

270 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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I'm with docevil1 on this one.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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v8thunder said:
If they got into power there'd be no incentive for earning over £100k or aspiring to a big house or a nice car, but there would be a reason to smoke pot




I never realised that they were mutually exclusive and that I would have to make a choice...

HughGabriel

3,704 posts

263 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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FourWheelDrift said:

What exactly for I wonder? Saving means they are still taking the £5billion generated in hard earned taxes but not doing anything productive with it except keep it, what for, a rainy day?


Maybe they want to reduce national debt and undo some of Mr Browns overspending

v8thunder

27,647 posts

280 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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Well, y'see, under Kennedy the Police would leave you alone and go after people making money and driving cars, wouldn't they?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

292 months

Monday 17th January 2005
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v8thunder said:
Well, y'see, under Kennedy the Police would leave you alone and go after people making money and driving cars, wouldn't they?


But what if the three were combined?

Herbal Taxis?

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

273 months

Tuesday 18th January 2005
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derestrictor said:
You want disaster et cetera
If you thought that Labour were bad then the Libs will be even worse....




I quite agree with you but the Tories haven't got a snowball's chance in hell of getting in. You are so I'd leave the country. Sell your house first, there'll be an economic collapse if the Libs do what they promise, you can at least then come out economically ahead.

Unfortunately the British electorate are by and large too stupid to see what the consequences of their actions will be - but I still think that Labour will get back in. Yet again the Tories have blown their chances.