Anybody else here fly r/c Helicopters...?
Anybody else here fly r/c Helicopters...?
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roop

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307 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Seems the sort of thing that PH'ers might be into as well as cars what with them being noisy, fast and tricky to master...!

FWIW I fly a Raptor 30 v2, Shuttle Plus, Zoom 400 and Ikarus Piccolo out of my back garden here.

Roop

Hugh1

3,704 posts

264 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I used to fly r/c planes until I crashed it into a fence at the bottom of a loop

pstruck

3,525 posts

272 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Recently built a Shuttle Sceadu 30, then found I didn't have the necessary time to learn to fly the thing... so I sold it!

May well get another one day when I have a bit more time. It was indeed a thing of beauty and I longed to fly it, but I know you need a lot of time!

>> Edited by pstruck on Friday 21st January 18:48

Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I (briefly)* flew real helicopters like these for the Royal Navy:










*I mean very briefly...

KITT

5,345 posts

264 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Tried it once but only with a Piccofly indoor jobby. Very tricky and could only hover it and bring it down again.

I mainly fly gliders, especially the EPP flying combat wings. Good laugh trying to knock each other out the sky

sccbishop

8,839 posts

305 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I've ALWAYS wanted to learn to do this but have heard it's very difficult. I've heard it suggested you should start off with an electric (rather than petrol) model to learn with? What would be a good total beginners' kit?

mechsympathy

57,185 posts

278 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Dibble said:
I (briefly)* flew real helicopters like these for the Royal Navy:

*I mean very briefly...


Is that because of a similar situation to this?


Dibble

13,257 posts

263 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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No. Started on Rotary wing training which was bloody hard work. Started to drop behind, and it's pretty much guaranteed curtains at that stage.

The workload is so heavy, it's almost impossible to catch up, so we parted company.

Still, I could have been in Iraq by now (or even first time round), so it's not all bad.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

270 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Yes. I do. Mastering a Hornet 2 at the moment. Really hard, but a bit easier than a Piccolo.

Don't like petrol personally. I'll only look at electrics and with lipos you can get 30 mins out of them.

The noise and smoke put me off petrol. Horrible din IMO !

Dibble

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263 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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And how come you've got the updated profile pic, when I can't see it?

Those are the two "Special needs" dogs - the pole the German Shepherd (not the Golden RETRIEVER )is retrieveing was about 21 feet long...

mechsympathy

57,185 posts

278 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Dibble said:
Still, I could have been in Iraq by now (or even first time round), so it's not all bad.

Oh Does that mean you can fly fixed wing, or do they not get you through that before you start rotary? (IYSWIM)

roop

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Friday 21st January 2005
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pstruck said:
Recently built a Shuttle Sceadu 30, then found I didn't have the necessary time to learn to fly the thing... so I sold it!




Shame - you'd have been better hanging onto it and using it as a conversation piece for visitors. Must have been gutted to sell it...!



dibble said:
I (briefly) flew real helicopters for the Royal Navy




That is just far too cool. I have a great video of a Lynx doing some 3D stuff, will try post it later if I can get it hosted.



kitt said:
Tried it once but only with a Piccofly indoor jobby. Very tricky and could only hover it and bring it down again.

I mainly fly gliders, especially the EPP flying combat wings. Good laugh trying to knock each other out the sky




I got a JP Bullet EPP thing. Complete load of crap. Should have bought a flying wing like yours. Bullit flew about as well as a brick. I now have a JP blow-moulded thing with electric power. Slopes quite nicely though.



sccbishop said:
I've ALWAYS wanted to learn to do this but have heard it's very difficult. I've heard it suggested you should start off with an electric (rather than petrol) model to learn with? What would be a good total beginners' kit?




Quite the opposite oddly enough. The electrics are more fickle, and the smaller ones significantly less stable due to their low inertia. Your best bet is a .30 size (glow engine) training helicopter. Either a Thunder Tiger Raptor or Hirobo Shuttle would be a good place to start. I might well have my Shuttle up for sale soon (don't need 2x .30 trainers) so give me a shout if you like. It's only had 3 tanks of fuel through it (therefore about half way through run-in) and has never been crashed, so it's a nice piece.

If you must go electric, avoid the Piccolo unless it's a Pro. The others don't have any collective and therefore don't fly anything like a 'proper' r/c helicopter. This goes for most of the micro helis, although if you don't want to progress to the bigger ones, the electrics are superb fun to fly in your living room and are a great challenge for those wet winter days. Just make sure you have lots of super glue. The Zoom 400 electric I have is an absolute pile of the proverbial, avoid like the plague. It flies beautifully for about 15 minutes then the tail drive shears and all hell breaks loose.

The glow engine helis are noisy and yes they do smell and you have to wipe the fuel residue off afterwards BUT they are MILES better to fly, I mean leagues ahead. There's nothing like flying your heli round the field at 40+ mph with the blades 'chopping' away sounding just like the real thing. The quality of the bigger kits tends to be better (it has to be given the forces involved and consequences if something fails).

Pics on my heli website at : www.raptorv2.co.uk

Edited to fix typos and add links to movies... :

First ever flight of the Piccolo and first ever flight of an r/c heli : http://movies.fastasfunk.co.uk/aero_hawk_final.wmv

Flying the Raptor : http://movies.fastasfunk.co.uk/raptor_practice_hq.wmv

First flight of the Shuttle Plus : http://movies.fastasfunk.co.uk/shuttle_plus_hq.wmv



>> Edited by roop on Friday 21st January 19:25

Dibble

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Friday 21st January 2005
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mechsympathy said:

Dibble said:
Still, I could have been in Iraq by now (or even first time round), so it's not all bad.


Oh Does that mean you can fly fixed wing, or do they not get you through that before you start rotary? (IYSWIM)


It's been 15 or so years since I did fixed wing (in a DeHavilland Chipmunk, FFS), so you wouldn't really want me taking the controls of your holiday Jumbo if the driver and his mate got food poisining...

roop

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Dibble

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Friday 21st January 2005
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roop said:
Dibble - was this you...?


No, but I remember the Instructor* doing something like that on a demo flight with me as P2. Loops in a helicopter is WRONG.







* aka "Mister" God...

mechsympathy

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Friday 21st January 2005
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Dibble said:

(in a DeHavilland Chipmunk, FFS)


I know them well(ish). I grew up near Middle Wallop air base.

Balmoral Green

42,554 posts

271 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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Car salesman colleague of mine used to fly one in the showroom on quiet Sundays, It used to scare the s**t out of me and I would hide in the toilets. But then he also used to blast into the showroom on his Suzuki GSX1100 and burn holes in the carpet tiles doing burnouts too.

janszott

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280 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I got one of these for Xmas
www.draganfly.com/draganflyer5.php

Only hovered a bit in the basement so far. Need to wait for the annual Canadian glaciers to recede before I can fly outside.

Mikey G

4,849 posts

263 months

Friday 21st January 2005
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I have had a Raptor 30 V2 for a year. i havent had much time to learn, done most of it on my simulator but to get the heli out in the right weather has turned into a right PITA! if i have time the weather is crap, if its fine, well, i dont have the time
I'm getting back into cars now so i may sell it its probably only had about 10 tanks through it!
They take a lot of dedication to learn to fly them!

roop

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Saturday 22nd January 2005
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Mikey G said:
I'm getting back into cars now so i may sell it


Noooooo...! Fill it up get out there and fly it. You'll soon pick up the bug. Cars are boring in comparison (although at the last count, my r/c car collection comfortably exceeded 40). Also you'll take a hammering on the price. Both my Shuttle and Raptor are worth around £350 - both cost in excess of £700 new. The Shuttle's only had 3 tanks, the Raptor almost 2 gallons.

Mikey G said:

They take a lot of dedication to learn to fly them!


Yep, but the thrill and sense of achievement when you crack it is fantastic...! Stick at it fella...!