Puppy advice requested, please!!
Puppy advice requested, please!!
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diddyman

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3,646 posts

264 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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We’ve just acquired a 9-week old Jack Russell puppy.

She’s fine during the day, and we have got the peeing and pooing under control, and she now does that all outside.

At night, however, she hates being left alone downstairs. She howls & howls all night, pees and poos all over her run and none of us are getting any sleep. She sleeps in a sort of cage about 4ft x 4ft in the laundry room.

She has not spent any time alone at night it seems, what with being with her brothers and sisters, and she obviously feels a little insecure.

We do not want this dog to control our lives, and at present we are leaving her downstairs to howl. I know it’s not very fair, but I fell if we go down and take her out for a wee she will see that we have done that not because she needs a wee but because she has been howling and we have come down to comfort her.

I don’t want her to think that if she howls we’ll come running.

So, what do we do? Do we

1. Go down and take her outside and then stick her back in her run. (Not something I relish! The thought of taking her out for a pee at 3.00am sounds like a fab idea!) Or

2. Ignore her howls, suffer the mess in the morning and hope that she grows out of it over the next week or so?

Any advice from people who have been in the same predicament is gratefully welcomed!

Cheers
Sleepyman (aka diddyman!)




beano500

20,854 posts

298 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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...or alternative 3

"Oh, Jim - what a wonderful dinner party. We sooo loved your curry....."

diddyman

Original Poster:

3,646 posts

264 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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beano500 said:
...or alternative 3

"Oh, Jim - what a wonderful dinner party. We sooo loved your curry....."

"Burp"

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

291 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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As a breed, the Jack Russell is particularly gregarious - they hate being cooped up and left alone at any time. At nine weeks your puppy is going through a very traumatic period - just separated from the litter, it hasn't bonded with you yet. So long as you give it plenty of love and attention at other times, this period will pass, the dog will get used to its surroundings and everything will work out fine. The puddles and piles are just something you have to learn to live with until the dog is a little more mature. You buy puppy - you clean up pooh. T'was ever thus.

My girlfriend relented on ours (we have a Jack Russell and a Staffy). First they were allowed run of the lower floor at night. Then she moved their bed into our bedroom. Now I regularly wake up in the morning to find two dogs on the bed! Do not weaken!

Jack Russells are fantastic companions and you have made a very good choice - it'll be your best mate for years.

mojocvh

16,837 posts

285 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Ignore her howls, suffer the mess in the morning and hope that she grows out of it over the next week or so?

Don't forget the earplugs!!

Now what you have here is a wee puppy that has to learn a new life quickly.

However it is not a human baby!!!

It isn't very nice at the time but if you are firm and don't relent then things will settle down.
A cage is a good thing and not only to confine pup, once older she will use this as a refuge when she wants some piece and quiet. Make sure that EVERONE knows to leave pup/dog alone when in cage. A dog has to know whats human stuff and whats dog stuff.

MoJo.

Trooper2

6,676 posts

254 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Try leaving a radio on in the room where the puppy is sleeping,it works sometimes.


And post a picture of the little terrier, if you feel like it. Jack Russels are great dogs.

that dogs gonna' have more energy than 2 bouncing smillies

diddyman

Original Poster:

3,646 posts

264 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Mon Ami Mate said:
As a breed, the Jack Russell is particularly gregarious - they hate being cooped up and left alone at any time. At nine weeks your puppy is going through a very traumatic period - just separated from the litter, it hasn't bonded with you yet. So long as you give it plenty of love and attention at other times, this period will pass, the dog will get used to its surroundings and everything will work out fine. The puddles and piles are just something you have to learn to live with until the dog is a little more mature. You buy puppy - you clean up pooh. T'was ever thus.

My girlfriend relented on ours (we have a Jack Russell and a Staffy). First they were allowed run of the lower floor at night. Then she moved their bed into our bedroom. Now I regularly wake up in the morning to find two dogs on the bed! Do not weaken!

Jack Russells are fantastic companions and you have made a very good choice - it'll be your best mate for years.


Upstairs is definitely out of bounds!And always will be.

I just don't want her to become so traumatised by being left alone at night that it turns her into some neurotic clingy thing for the rest of her life (like my mother's!)

Children are fine at night - oldest would sleep through a nuclear war and youngets cuurently sleeping in our attic room as she is alight sleeper and her bedroom is above the howling chamber! My wife and I, however, are not getting any sleep, though hark! I hear footprints in our bedroom! It's alive!

I just don't know whether I should capitulate and go down to er in the middle of the night and make things potetnailly worse, or just leave her to howl and crap! I don,t have a problem clearing up the poo (after all it is contained within the cage), but she makes a bit of a mess of herself in the process.

diddyman

Original Poster:

3,646 posts

264 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Trooper2 said:
Try leaving a radio on in the room where the puppy is sleeping,it works sometimes.


And post a picture of the little terrier, if you feel like it. Jack Russels are great dogs.

that dogs gonna' have more energy than 2 bouncing smillies


I'll post one tomorrow, when I am in the office.

Can't wait for 3 weeks time when she is allowed outside properly and can burn off some of her excess energy! being cooped up in the house ain't much fun for her, I am sure!

chim_girl

6,268 posts

282 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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There is a theory that you should let the dog sleep on something that you used to wear, they find the smell comforting. In addition, a not too hot, hot water bottle stuffed into said item of clothing can make them feel better, at this age they're used to having their siblings around and the warmth of the bottle is similar. As some one else said, leaving a radio on can help too - probably better tuned to Radio 4 not Rock FM!

As others have said, you *have* to leave the dog alone, if not it will learn that howling is rewarded by a visit from its master.

s 8 grn

1,198 posts

266 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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chim_girl said:
There is a theory that you should let the dog sleep on something that you used to wear, they find the smell comforting.


Spot On Chim Girl

You'll just have to stick it out for a few weeks and it will sort itself.

andy4200

5,117 posts

296 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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chim_girl said:
There is a theory that you should let the dog sleep on something that you used to wear, they find the smell comforting.


Just don't give it a fleece!!
My dog got rather attached to my fleece and decided it was the next best thing to lady dog. I lost two fleeces in the end.

Don't give in......

anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Our dog (a cross collie) would never sleep down stairs.

He would keep everyone awake if left downstairs.

In the end he used to sleep in my parents room.

Sadly we had to have him put down this morning, as he had been very ill over the last few days.

chim_girl

6,268 posts

282 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Supraman, you have my sympathy, it's a sad day when you have to do that.

anonymous-user

77 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Thanks Chim girl, He lived to a good age, 14 and a half. We thought we had nearly lost him last year.

WildCat

8,369 posts

266 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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I found a CD of gentle relaxing classical music worked well for the labradors as puppies. They had each other but still howled at first. Und .. a old T-shirt mit your scent on it also worked mit these dogs. We never had a problem mit our stroppy cat.

Speaking of cats ... read disturbing article in paper this morning about missing moggies.... it seems urban fox are killing them...

cosmoschick

7,977 posts

272 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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Has anybody got experience of Westies? I'm thinking of getting one!

MimiB

365 posts

255 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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I had a Westie, it made our Jack Russell look like some old, decrepid thing from the walking dead. Neurotic wasn't the world, psychotic wasn't the word. I don't know QUITE what was wrong with it! I did absolutely love it though, the westie and the JR used to come out riding with us all the time! They look sweet and innocent, but they are VERY hyper.

My Dachshund was just the same, she used to howl all night long. So I had her in my bedroom, she's not clingy at all though now (She's 2), she'll sleep downstairs with the lab and weimeraner or she'll sleep in with me. Pretty much does as she pleases, but with a JR I'd leave it to howl. Make it comfortable, put quite a few blankets etc. In with it.

Good luck, they do grow out of it.

mutt k

3,964 posts

261 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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[quote=Mon Ami Mate]
My girlfriend relented on ours (we have a Jack Russell and a Staffy). First they were allowed run of the lower floor at night. Then she moved their bed into our bedroom. Now I regularly wake up in the morning to find two dogs on the bed! Do not weaken!

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been there, done that, got dog hair all over the tee shirt!

And when 18lbs of dog takes a running jump to get on to the bed at 3AM, and lands on yer knackers you'll know the meaning of pain!

sparkythecat

8,064 posts

278 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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These are the puppies that make the best companions.

You won't mind waking up in the night to give them some attention!





KingRichard

10,146 posts

255 months

Sunday 6th February 2005
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WildCat said:


Speaking of cats ... read disturbing article in paper this morning about missing moggies.... it seems urban fox are killing them...


And Rover 800's, whoops!