The Prisoner Last episode.

[pesty]

Just watched the last episode on BBC4. Does anybidy know what kind of drugs they were on and where I can get hold of some. Where they all shrooming or something.

Don't get me wrong absolutely marvelous but mad as tits on a fish at teh same time.

[Gaffer]

I have the CD box set and watched the whole series several times and I still dont fully understand it.

I dont think PmG will be able to explain it either..!

I think the best episode is the 2nd to last when No.2 is trying to break No.6 and ends up mental himself.

Claire

[Cotty]

most people/fans could not understand the ending, there was uproar at the time. Not seen it myself but was a fan of the series

[PatHeald]

Aye, they don't make telly like that no more...

Brilliant stuff.

I hold Patrick McGoohan personally responsible for me having a Lotus Seven fixation from 1985 to 2001....

Is there anything more desirable than a dark green Seven with a yellow nose?

Be seeing you

Pat

[krispy]

PatHeald said:

Is there anything more desirable than a dark green Seven with a yellow nose? Be seeing you Pat

Nope, there isn't, and there's a 1962 dark green SII with a yellow nose, red/white piping seat with 1500 cosworth engine for sale on P.167 of Classic Cars this month (Mike Abbas cars)......

........I am sorely tempted.......

Kris..

[Tuna]

I think it was cancelled at fairly short notice, so they pretty much made up an ending on the spot. It does make absolutely no sense whatsoever

[PatHeald]

krispy said:

PatHeald said: Is there anything more desirable than a dark green Seven with a yellow nose? Be seeing you Pat Nope, there isn't, and there's a 1962 dark green SII with a yellow nose, red/white piping seat with 1500 cosworth engine for sale on P.167 of Classic Cars this month (Mike Abbas cars)...... ........I am sorely tempted....... Kris..

Now there's a coincidence...

I sold my first Seven to Mike Abbas in 1986.

He is only just up the road from me.

My problem is that I just don't fit in the bloody things, not even the long cockpit Caterhams.

Mind you, I've not tried one of these new wide bodied Caterhams....

Be seing you

Pat

[krispy]

Ah well, a quick look at his website confirms that the most desireable of projectiles has gone already. No surprise there - last owner for 34 years!

Kris..
ps. How does the Griff compare with a 7??

[pesty]

Just looking around the net about the Prisoner. It turns out the guy who Owned Caterham turns up in the last episode. Hes the guy returning No.6's 7 at the end. he even gives it a little wipe over.

[brainsaw]

pesty said:

Just looking around the net about the Prisoner. It turns out the guy who Owned Caterham turns up in the last episode. Hes the guy returning No.6's 7 at the end. he even gives it a little wipe over.

...although IIRC it's actually a different car than the one in the starting sequence... or maybe it's a different one in that ep where there's that woman living in his house.

[PatHeald]

krispy said:

How does the Griff compare with a 7??

Well, Fat Pat fits in the Griff for a start....

The Griff is a lot faster in a straight line than either of my Sevens, but the TVR's steering is lower geared and vague compared to the Sevens.

The Griff is more twitchy and unpredictable than the Sevens, but sounds miles better.

I used to have an Esprit, which was recognisably a close relation of the Seven, even down to the raspy twin carbs and faultless steering.

I drove an Elise recently, which fell precisely half way between the two.

The Griffith is a traversty of power over traction and handling.

The Sevens, the Elise and the Esprit were all cars that ran out of power before they reached the limits of their handling.

It would be a brave and talented driver that could drive the Griff faster than an Esprit or an Elise.

The TVR is a much nicer drive unless you are at 10/10 on a twisty road, when it is positively horrible compared to a Lotus.....

Pat

[HiRich]

Tuna said:

I think it was cancelled at fairly short notice, so they pretty much made up an ending on the spot. It does make absolutely no sense whatsoever

I don't think it was cancelled. Lew Grade sold it to America, where they prefer 17 episode seasons to our 13. McGoohan would do the extra four, but not another complete season. I believe he was focussing on hos movie career (there's one episode that he misses almost entirely, because he was filming Ice Station Zebra). He and the writer were also under pressure to present a conclusion, rather than just leave it hanging. They hadn't planned that bit, so as you say they had to cobble together an idea.

The final episode starts off OK, returning to the central theme of the needs and rights of the individual over those of the community (the Village). Then he finds out who is Number One, and as you say it stops making any sense.

[gshughes]

HiRich said:

I believe he was focussing on hos movie career (there's one episode that he misses almost entirely, because he was filming Ice Station Zebra).

I read that he took the Ice Station Zebra job to provide the funding the finish the Prisoner. He ended up being pretty obsessed with the series to the extent of writing, producing, directing and starring in it all at the same time.

If you ever get the chance to visit Portmerion do so. An amazing place.

[The Wiz]

www.portmeiricon.com/

The Fan Clubs convention - go along and perhaps they will explain it all ....

[ge2]

I too own the box set, am a big fan and don't understand it.

I used to watch it when I was very young and had no idea about or interest in cars.

In my twenties I developed an obsession with all things 7 without realising that was the car in the Prisoner until i'd forgotten all about the show and it was repeated on TV .

Some form of subliminal programming going on!

[caro]

PatHeald said:

Aye, they don't make telly like that no more... Brilliant stuff. I hold Patrick McGoohan personally responsible for me having a Lotus Seven fixation from 1985 to 2001.... Is there anything more desirable than a dark green Seven with a yellow nose? Be seeing you Pat

Oh you could be quoting my other half! Guess what colour scheme his 7 is?