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thegreatsoprendo

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5,288 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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I'm usually pretty good on this, but I'm having a mental block today! Which is correct:

"The customers baggage" or
"The customer's baggage"?

Cheers!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

293 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Does the baggage in question belong to the customer?

Or are there many customers with some baggage?

thegreatsoprendo

Original Poster:

5,288 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Plotloss said:
Does the baggage in question belong to the customer?

Yes...

beanbag

7,346 posts

264 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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thegreatsoprendo said:

"The customers baggage" - Would imply
the baggage belonging to the customer
"The customer's baggage"? - Would imply the customer is baggage (woman maybe )

omitchell

19,762 posts

258 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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shouldn't it be "The customers' baggage?" or am i spouting useless drivel?

beanbag

7,346 posts

264 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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omitchell said:
shouldn't it be "The customers' baggage?" or am i spouting useless drivel?


That would be implying multiple customers.....

Plotloss

67,280 posts

293 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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I think

One customer - customer's baggage

Many customers - customers' baggage

The second one may also validly be customers baggage on the basis of new fangled language rules...

neil.b

6,546 posts

270 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Nope, all wrong.

The correct modern grammar is "Da geezahs shit...."

lunarscope

2,901 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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neil.b said:
Nope, all wrong.

The correct modern grammar is "Da geezahs shit...."


[pedant]Da geezah's shit." [/pedant]

jacobyte

4,767 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Plotloss said:
I think
The second one may also validly be customers baggage on the basis of new fangled language rules...


Not correct. "Customers baggage" contains no genitive apostrophe, thereby rendering this phrase a statement that requires the word "baggage" to be a verb.

E.g. "Customers baggage incessantly", or "Don't baggage anymore, it's the sort of thing that customers do."

stedale

1,125 posts

288 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Here's one I saw the other day:

"No entry Macdonalds employee's only"

Only in Macdonalds eh?

Steve

Balmoral Green

42,558 posts

271 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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stedale said:
Here's one I saw the other day:

"No entry Macdonalds employee's only"

Only in McDonald's eh?

Steve


I know that technically the apostrophe is wrong, but that's the way McDonald's do it.


>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Wednesday 16th February 16:20

Chris Type R

8,839 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Balmoral Green said:

I know that technically the apostrophe is wrong, but that's the way McDonald's do it.



So shouldn't it be "No entry, McDonalds Employees only."

>> Edited by Chris Type R on Wednesday 16th February 16:25

Balmoral Green

42,558 posts

271 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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The wording/grammar of the sign was incorrect, but I didnt edit that, It was the spelling/punctuation of McDonald's that I highlighted in bold. It is that apostrophe to which I was referring. But yes, t'other one was wrong too.

Legal aid anyone?

lanciachris

3,357 posts

264 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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Chris Type R said:

Balmoral Green said:

I know that technically the apostrophe is wrong, but that's the way McDonald's do it.




So shouldn't it be "No entry, McDonalds Employees only."

>> Edited by Chris Type R on Wednesday 16th February 16:25


I would have thought it would be 'Fly you fools!'

(lotr reference...)

Eric Mc

124,824 posts

288 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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If you are implying that the baggage belongs to one customer, then it should be "the customer's baggage"

If you are implying that the baggage belonged to many customers or all the customers, then it would be "the customers' baggage".

If you are describing a customer as being "baggage" you would normally say that the "customer is baggage" This could be shortened, however, to "the customer's baggage".

As far as the McDonalds sign is concerned, the name of the company is "McDonalds" not McDonald". Therefore, if the sign is describing the employees as being the employees of McDonalds, it should read "McDonalds' Employees Only".

No apostophee is required in the word "Employees" at all as it is merely the plural of the singular word, "Employee", It is not indicating the possessive in any way - i.e. it is not referring to anything belonging to or any atribute of an employee or a number of employees.


>> Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 16th February 16:56

Yertis

19,547 posts

289 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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lanciachris said:

Chris Type R said:


Balmoral Green said:

I know that technically the apostrophe is wrong, but that's the way McDonald's do it.





So shouldn't it be "No entry, McDonalds Employees only."

>> Edited by Chris Type R on Wednesday 16th February 16:25



I would have thought it would be 'Fly you fools!'

(lotr reference...)


Isn't it "Run you fools!"?

polarbert

17,936 posts

254 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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so which would be right out of these then?

robert's coat
roberts coat?

i thought it would be the former as it is my coat?

groucho

12,134 posts

269 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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robert's coat is right as it belongs to him.

towman

14,938 posts

262 months

Wednesday 16th February 2005
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A question related to a sign seen outside a local fishmonger`s. We can assume the mans name is not Friday, but which is correct?

Friday`s special
Fridays special.

referring to the "deal of the day"

Steve