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I KNOW MY RIGHTS
by Charis Mastris
YOU'LL PICK UP THE BILL: Carl Wareham, 20, is appealing against an Asbo imposed for being the ringleader of a gang which terrorised villagers
THIS lout has made life for the people of a Purbeck village a misery - and now they're paying for him to argue it's his human right to be there.
Carl Wareham, 20, was banned from Lytchett Matravers for five years under an antisocial behaviour order, after a court heard he was the ringleader of a gang which repeatedly terrorised villagers.
Today, he is appealing against the order in the High Court under the Human Rights Act, despite losing a similar argument in the magistrates' court, when the district judge said the people who complained about him have human rights, too.
Purbeck District Council's barrister, Peter Greenfield, said the appeals will have cost thousands of pounds in public funds for Wareham's legal aid, while the council has spent thousands more in defence costs.
"It's a bit of a mockery of the whole system," he said. "Not only has everybody suffered, but they're now paying for him to argue about his human rights."
He added that if the appeal succeeds, it will cause major problems countrywide as Asbos could be overturned and councils would have to find defendants and ensure they turn up to the hearings.
One villager said Lytchett Matravers has been much quieter since Wareham and one of his accomplices, Matthew Fox, 19, were banned.
"Carl Wareham never gave a thought to anyone else's human rights when he was causing all the problems in the village," he said.
Wareham's lawyer, Robert Renshaw, told the magistrates' court during the previous appeal that under the Human Rights Act his client, the family and an advocate should have been able to listen to the meetings that led to the Asbo appli-cation and present his side.
But Mr Greenfield told the Echo: "It would be like the police arresting and charging someone, sending the file to the Crown Prosecution Service, and inviting the defendant along to the meetings where they discuss what the charge should be."
Wareham, of Hercules Road, Hamworthy, has numerous previous convictions.
He is also alleged to have hit a man in the head with a baseball bat, sped and skidded his car outside Lytchett Matravers nursery school and threatened a couple with a knife, although he was not convicted of these offences.
A resident of the village told police before the Asbo that Wareham and his gang constantly harassed him and his family, threatening to burn his car, causing him to change the time he came home from work and reducing his wife to a "nervous wreck".
He said: "This intimidation was so bad that my wife would not walk to the parade of shops or even take my daughter to the play-park through fear and worrying about intimidation from the group.
"These incidents have taken their toll on my family. Sadly, we have no choice but to put our house on the market."
First published: February 17
I KNOW MY RIGHTS
by Charis Mastris
YOU'LL PICK UP THE BILL: Carl Wareham, 20, is appealing against an Asbo imposed for being the ringleader of a gang which terrorised villagers
THIS lout has made life for the people of a Purbeck village a misery - and now they're paying for him to argue it's his human right to be there.
Carl Wareham, 20, was banned from Lytchett Matravers for five years under an antisocial behaviour order, after a court heard he was the ringleader of a gang which repeatedly terrorised villagers.
Today, he is appealing against the order in the High Court under the Human Rights Act, despite losing a similar argument in the magistrates' court, when the district judge said the people who complained about him have human rights, too.
Purbeck District Council's barrister, Peter Greenfield, said the appeals will have cost thousands of pounds in public funds for Wareham's legal aid, while the council has spent thousands more in defence costs.
"It's a bit of a mockery of the whole system," he said. "Not only has everybody suffered, but they're now paying for him to argue about his human rights."
He added that if the appeal succeeds, it will cause major problems countrywide as Asbos could be overturned and councils would have to find defendants and ensure they turn up to the hearings.
One villager said Lytchett Matravers has been much quieter since Wareham and one of his accomplices, Matthew Fox, 19, were banned.
"Carl Wareham never gave a thought to anyone else's human rights when he was causing all the problems in the village," he said.
Wareham's lawyer, Robert Renshaw, told the magistrates' court during the previous appeal that under the Human Rights Act his client, the family and an advocate should have been able to listen to the meetings that led to the Asbo appli-cation and present his side.
But Mr Greenfield told the Echo: "It would be like the police arresting and charging someone, sending the file to the Crown Prosecution Service, and inviting the defendant along to the meetings where they discuss what the charge should be."
Wareham, of Hercules Road, Hamworthy, has numerous previous convictions.
He is also alleged to have hit a man in the head with a baseball bat, sped and skidded his car outside Lytchett Matravers nursery school and threatened a couple with a knife, although he was not convicted of these offences.
A resident of the village told police before the Asbo that Wareham and his gang constantly harassed him and his family, threatening to burn his car, causing him to change the time he came home from work and reducing his wife to a "nervous wreck".
He said: "This intimidation was so bad that my wife would not walk to the parade of shops or even take my daughter to the play-park through fear and worrying about intimidation from the group.
"These incidents have taken their toll on my family. Sadly, we have no choice but to put our house on the market."
First published: February 17
"I Know My Rights", "It's A Free Country" and "I'll Sue You" - the common defences of pondlife up and down this country, in the belief that no-one has the right to stop them doing exactly whatever they want. My housemate caught a little scrote letting the tyres down on one of his Land Rovers last night. Their defence, before they ran away? "So what, it's a free country".
Real laws do not apply. They want to think like that - prepare for vigilantes if it carries on.
Real laws do not apply. They want to think like that - prepare for vigilantes if it carries on.
Why can't someone just go down and silence this chap?
I don't normally post things like this, but some people just need a visit late at night. I used to work at a working men's club oop North, anything needed sorting they'd always offer to come along and 'have a chat' so to speak.
I'm not saying we should all be going around disobeying the law, but sometimes the law would probably turn a blind eye ...
I don't normally post things like this, but some people just need a visit late at night. I used to work at a working men's club oop North, anything needed sorting they'd always offer to come along and 'have a chat' so to speak.
I'm not saying we should all be going around disobeying the law, but sometimes the law would probably turn a blind eye ...
The farmers around here have got an interesting take on people like that.....
Needless to say, they aren't around here any more. No amount of legal nonsense is going to stand in the way of a farmers bullets.
Rule one, don't piss a farmer off. Perhaps the locals need to do some stealth damage in the local farmyard.
Needless to say, they aren't around here any more. No amount of legal nonsense is going to stand in the way of a farmers bullets.
Rule one, don't piss a farmer off. Perhaps the locals need to do some stealth damage in the local farmyard.
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Anyone live near here? Want to do the world a favour?
This gets more interesting, this low life is living with someone called Hayley Mabey in Lytchett Mattravers hence the reason he is a bit pissed at getting an ASBO from the place.
>> Edited by vetteheadracer on Thursday 17th February 13:02
Anyone live near here? Want to do the world a favour?
This gets more interesting, this low life is living with someone called Hayley Mabey in Lytchett Mattravers hence the reason he is a bit pissed at getting an ASBO from the place.
>> Edited by vetteheadracer on Thursday 17th February 13:02
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