Council Tax Rises - In the Times today.
Council Tax Rises - In the Times today.
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Zippee

13,944 posts

257 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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Must be a misprint as I'm band C in Cambs and pay just short of a grand.

lanciachris

3,357 posts

264 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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On the council tax front is it my imagination or are the bands hopelessly irrelevant to current property values etc?

tvrtim

438 posts

285 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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Ianciachris,
Yes they are.
But they wont be for much longer.
Guess what happens next.

Vote labour.

>> Edited by tvrtim on Friday 18th February 10:16

birdbrain

1,564 posts

262 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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I'm still waiting to be told what band I'm in.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

293 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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I dont understand how I am getting VFM from the £1800 I pay a year for a 3 bed semi.

There are 80 houses in my road all very similar.

Thats £144K from just one road.

Where does it all go? Binmen surely cant be that expensive?

Bring back the community charge!!

diddyman

3,646 posts

264 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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Plotloss said:
I dont understand how I am getting VFM from the £1800 I pay a year for a 3 bed semi.

There are 80 houses in my road all very similar.

Thats £144K from just one road.

Where does it all go? Binmen surely cant be that expensive?

Bring back the community charge!!


£1800 a year? That's fing outrageous. I thought we were bad enough at £1400 and the only services we use for that are the bin men. (Kent doesn't maintain roads, my children are privately educated and the police are too busy catching motorists doing 34 in a 30 to worry about real criminals.)

Our house is worth approximately 3 times what we paid for it 5 years ago by virtue of the work we have done on it, so I am looking forward to seeing what our council decides is a good rateable value for it is now.

forever_driving

1,869 posts

273 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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The whole system is screwed, for instance my dad's home in London is worth 3 times as much as mine in Brighton, but his council tax is in a lower band... the bastard!

birdbrain

1,564 posts

262 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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anonymous said:
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Damn! Is there a helpline number?

chris_freebie

957 posts

262 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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anonymous said:
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Damn swings and roundbaouts eh !

>> Edited by chris_freebie on Friday 18th February 11:13

birdbrain

1,564 posts

262 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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No. I've tried that. It's a new build and they said they're waiting for some government department to issue bandings. So I'll probably be waiting 6 months and then they'll want the lot in one go.

coco h

4,237 posts

260 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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Mid beds - we paid £2000 a year for band G and south cambs band D is about £1000

chris_freebie

957 posts

262 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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birdbrain said:
No. I've tried that. It's a new build and they said they're waiting for some government department to issue bandings. So I'll probably be waiting 6 months and then they'll want the lot in one go.


Well that's just rubbish isn't it ? They're the ones wanting to charge you money surely ?? So they ought to be able to tell you how much they'd like you to pay.

I'm in the process of trying to exchange at the moment so I can move in to a quality 1 bedroom flat within a month or so, it's a 1980's flat and at first I thought I was in a seriously high band which seemed very odd, luckily I read on a bit and found out it's based back in the day and thus I should fall into a much lower band.

It's still strange that you can live in London and pay less than someone living on the coast of Sussex - so does that mean in 1980 Brighton was more expensive than London? That doesn't make sense either.

andygo

7,295 posts

278 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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We pay about £1700 for as band G property in Southport.

Council tax is going up by 5% - again.

Our problem in Southport that we were cunningly moved into a metropolitan boro' that happened to include Bootle and areas close to it.

Nice prosperous Southport = loads of money.

Bootle - not so nice, high unemployment= very low council tax per head.

Bootle neads money spending on it, so money from Southport goes to Bootle.

Bootle needs lots of money spending on it so council tax goes thru' the roof. (Actually Bootle needs razing to the ground.)

JagLover

46,111 posts

258 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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and just to cheer everyone up they are soon going to revalue all homes for the purposes of council tax bands.

When they did a similar exercise in Wales a third of homes were moved into a higher council tax bracket.

love machine

7,609 posts

258 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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JagLover said:
and just to cheer everyone up they are soon going to revalue all homes for the purposes of council tax bands.

When they did a similar exercise in Wales a third of homes were moved into a higher council tax bracket.


My folks (Mum=housewife Dad=Retired teacher) had the financial means to buy their pad and it's paid for. So about 30 years on, everyone from Chelsea wants to live in our village and house prices have x10! So, the local council rock up and say "Your house would now take at least 6 teachers to afford, so you can now pay X", it seems a bit mad. As their pensions/etc pretty much pay the council tax! What do we get? Not much!

wolves_wanderer

12,927 posts

260 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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love machine said:

JagLover said:
and just to cheer everyone up they are soon going to revalue all homes for the purposes of council tax bands.

When they did a similar exercise in Wales a third of homes were moved into a higher council tax bracket.



My folks (Mum=housewife Dad=Retired teacher) had the financial means to buy their pad and it's paid for. So about 30 years on, everyone from Chelsea wants to live in our village and house prices have x10! So, the local council rock up and say "Your house would now take at least 6 teachers to afford, so you can now pay X", it seems a bit mad. As their pensions/etc pretty much pay the council tax! What do we get? Not much!


It's because we are all much wealthier by virtue of house prices going up. Don't you listen to Gordon Brown. Honestly

love machine

7,609 posts

258 months

Friday 18th February 2005
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wolves_wanderer said:

love machine said:


JagLover said:
and just to cheer everyone up they are soon going to revalue all homes for the purposes of council tax bands.

When they did a similar exercise in Wales a third of homes were moved into a higher council tax bracket.




My folks (Mum=housewife Dad=Retired teacher) had the financial means to buy their pad and it's paid for. So about 30 years on, everyone from Chelsea wants to live in our village and house prices have x10! So, the local council rock up and say "Your house would now take at least 6 teachers to afford, so you can now pay X", it seems a bit mad. As their pensions/etc pretty much pay the council tax! What do we get? Not much!



It's because we are all much wealthier by virtue of house prices going up. Don't you listen to Gordon Brown. Honestly


And the best part, when I inherit the bloody thing, Gordon will Foxtrot Oscar with a load of the money. If he was going to do something not with bloody wars and asylum seekers, it would go a little bit more with the grain. BASTARDS!

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

274 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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love machine said:

And the best part, when I inherit the bloody thing, Gordon will Foxtrot Oscar with a load of the money. If he was going to do something not with bloody wars and asylum seekers, it would go a little bit more with the grain. BASTARDS!


Then you need to consult with an Estate Planner who can work within the framework of the law to progressively hand over the property and not pay a penny in inheritance tax.

It's a shame the rises couldn't have come last year, that would really tick off the General Public, perhaps even enough to create a hung Parliament (I've given up ideas of the Tories winning).

They also need to start jailing a few Labour voter types for non-payment of fines.

james_j

3,996 posts

278 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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What's the point of a revaluation, apart from an excuse to increase what we have to pay?

After all, when the valuations were done originally, all houses were done at the same time and all houses have increased in value more or less according to house price inflation. Why revalue? All houses have increased in value together.

A labour BS excuse to shaft us yet again.

granville

18,764 posts

284 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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james_j said:
What's the point of a revaluation, apart from an excuse to increase what we have to pay?

After all, when the valuations were done originally, all houses were done at the same time and all houses have increased in value more or less according to house price inflation. Why revalue? All houses have increased in value together.

A labour BS excuse to shaft us yet again.


Absolutely.

Labour is about one thing, primarily: tax.

Specifically, taxing those who can be arsed, to give it to those who can't.

Of course, they make one humungous error in their assumption: namely, that the private sector ~ battered and increasingly bruised by a million and one rules, regulations and impositions ~ has the infinite werewithal to perpetually fund their socialist machinations.

It doesn't and increasingly won't and you can see this in Brown's lower than expected tax receipts.

You can't make an omlette without cracking a few eggs and this country cannot sustain itself to it's Maggie-spec standard of living without allowing profiteers, both individual and corporate, to keep more of their desperately hard earned.

Yesterday, I saw a Ferrari in the centre of Manchester.

On the number plate, where one mighty expect to see a dealer logo was instead, an hilariously ironic comment.

It read, "Crime does pay."

Well crime, aye - and bone idleness.