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t1grm

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4,657 posts

307 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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Just checked into my hotel in Brighton (and when I say hotel I mean a 30 quid a night B&B) switched on my laptop to playback some music. Upon booting up, to my surprise, the wi-fi network adapter found a network and connected without me doing anything!

So, I have absolutely nothing of anything of any importance to say but I couldn’t resist the opportunity to post on PH at the expense of someone else’s bandwidth

Think I’ll download some porn later

burnt

1,371 posts

272 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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Same if you go to Pizza Express in Henley, I think the offices next door have a security loop hole

bga

8,134 posts

274 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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depending on where you are in brighton you should be able to connect to www.piertopier.net/ for free

t1grm

Original Poster:

4,657 posts

307 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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Still working....

According to the network properties I’m connected to “NETGEAR”. That’s what I get at home. So someone next door obviously has a Netgear wireless router that they’ve left on default settings.


Lois

14,706 posts

275 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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ace!
Preston is slowly gaining wireless access. Currently across most uni buildings and some pubs and bars. Not sure how it works out though.

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

257 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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t1grm said:
Still working....

According to the network properties I’m connected to “NETGEAR”. That’s what I get at home. So someone next door obviously has a Netgear wireless router that they’ve left on default settings.




Erm, that person might end up out of pocket because of what you're doing.....which basically is theft. Not a massive deal, but I'd be a bit annoyed if my bill increased by several Earth pounds.

bga

8,134 posts

274 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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t1grm said:
Still working....

According to the network properties I’m connected to “NETGEAR”. That’s what I get at home. So someone next door obviously has a Netgear wireless router that they’ve left on default settings.



I've got the option of Wilma (mine), belkin54g and BTVOYAGER2100-7D right now. Both of them are usable when "testing" my wireless card

There are a couple of others with no encryption or MAC address filtering which are only hiding their SSID too.

Lots of fun to be had should one not have plenty of bandwidth + unlimited downloads.

chris_freebie

957 posts

262 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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t1grm said:
Just checked into my hotel in Brighton (and when I say hotel I mean a 30 quid a night B&B) switched on my laptop to playback some music. Upon booting up, to my surprise, the wi-fi network adapter found a network and connected without me doing anything!

So, I have absolutely nothing of anything of any importance to say but I couldn’t resist the opportunity to post on PH at the expense of someone else’s bandwidth

Think I’ll download some porn later

Is that the one with the big banger outside "£30 a night B&B" v. close to Pier etc

MilnerR

8,273 posts

281 months

Saturday 19th February 2005
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parrot of doom said:


Erm, that person might end up out of pocket because of what you're doing.....which basically is theft. Not a massive deal, but I'd be a bit annoyed if my bill increased by several Earth pounds.


If its on broadband its not going to make a huge difference, unless he decides to download 15GB of porn in one night
Might be worth telling the owners of the place in case the network is the B&B's and they have important data on that is accessible.

rpguk

4,511 posts

307 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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I leave open the wi-fi connection at work at night no one is using the net and I'd rather someone else use it then it go dormant.

cotty

41,925 posts

307 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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I currently have free access 24/7, someone made a mistake and stopped billing me.

sadako

7,080 posts

261 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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MilnerR said:

unless he decides to download 15GB of porn in one night


Sounds like a challenge to me...

2 Smokin Barrels

31,786 posts

258 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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cotty said:
I currently have free access 24/7, someone made a mistake and stopped billing me.


Wait til they catch up with the billing!

Pigeon

18,535 posts

269 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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It's not unknown for BT to reconnect a disconnected phone line for no apparent reason, without being asked and without then sending out any bills. I know someone who had free phone service for ages due to this. It was someone making a reverse charge call to the number that eventually put the kybosh on it, but they still didn't send out any bills.

markmullen

15,877 posts

257 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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My network is as secure as wireless can be (WEP, SSID broadcast off and MAC filtering on, passwords all changed regularly to non-obvious strings) but the flats opposite mine obviously don't bother, one of my bridges regularly offers me the option of Flat 7 and Flat 9!

Can't remember if it was someone on here or another forum who lived next door to a McDonalds and used to leach their 2Mb pipe all the time, didn't bother to buy his own broadband, had a free one courtesy of the golden arches.

andy_b

727 posts

274 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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have the option of 3 in my road at the moment, although luckily I've sec up mine with a MAC address

2alexcoo

80 posts

266 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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markmullen said:

Can't remember if it was someone on here or another forum who lived next door to a McDonalds


Would that be a Big MAC address?

matt_t16

3,402 posts

272 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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markmullen said:

Can't remember if it was someone on here or another forum who lived next door to a McDonalds and used to leach their 2Mb pipe all the time, didn't bother to buy his own broadband, had a free one courtesy of the golden arches.


Was a mate of mine, had unlimited Openzone access via his work so just used the connection the Mc'D over the road had constantly - 24/7

Matt

Byff

4,427 posts

284 months

Sunday 20th February 2005
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Having just got my wireless network up and running, this thread worries me a little.

As I don't need the wireless part just yet, it's switched off in the settings, however, should I need to switch it back on, what do I need to do to secure my network?

All this MAC stuff is a bit beyond me considering I set up the network with a weeks worth of click and see if it works.

arcturus

1,497 posts

286 months

Monday 21st February 2005
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Byff said:
what do I need to do to secure my network?


The golden rules are:

1. Enable WEP

2. Hide your SSID

3. Switch on MAC address filtering.

Taking them in order (and I have just cut & pasted this from what I wrote in a previous thread):

Arcturus in a previous thread said:

1. You can encrypt all signals between your Wireless Access Point (WAP) and your laptop/PC by using WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy). This is an encryption algorithm that is part of the 802.11 wireless networking standard and is built into all the wireless networking components that we are talking about. The snag is, that by default in most components it is turned off and you the system administrator has to turn it on.

2. All WAPs broadcast their name or SSID (Service Set Identifier) to the world. This is logical since it makes it easy for other computers to find the network. Once your laptop/PC has been introduced to your WAP, I would suggest you turn off SSID broadcast on the WAP. That way, a passer by will have a hard time knowing that your network exists, because you WAP is no longer shouting its name across the rooftops.

3. Most WAPs support MAC control and again I suggest you use it. Every single network card in the world, whether wireless or wired, has a unique identifier or address embedded in it. This is called a MAC (sorry cant remember what it stands for). By enabling MAC control in your WAP, you can tell it to only speak to network cards that you have authorised - ie you have entered into the WAP the unique identifiers of the network cards it can communicate with. By doing this, even if someone does find your network, the WAP will refuse to talk to them unless you allow it.


If you tell us which wireless equipment you are using, someone will come along and tell you where to find and how to change these settings.