Sneaky Cops?
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Phillvr6

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3,785 posts

289 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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Speaking to my dad yesterday and he was telling me about a rta just outside Manchester yesterday. He said as he approached the incident he could see the back of a van with flashing blue and red lights. As you would he clicked that this would be police.

Now for the twist, when he passed the van he saw it did not have police livery but was stickered up as a 24hour window boarding company van.

Now there had deffinataly been an accident, and there were deffinately police there, so this deffinataly was a police vehicle.

Has anyone else seen or heard of anything else like this?

Phill

BigGee

505 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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So your saying, covert police van in 24 hour window
disguise comes to an RTA and has to show it's true blue
flashing colour to assist in the accident.

How sneaky is that.

Phillvr6

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3,785 posts

289 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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No, I'm saying if they were to use such a vehicle to catch people speeding etc that would be well and truely out of order.

If you are saying that this is not the case then furry muff.

If you look carefully you'll notice the question mark in the title.

Phill

titiany

2,122 posts

261 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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Phillvr6 said:
No, I'm saying if they were to use such a vehicle to catch people speeding etc that would be well and truely out of order.
Phill


Surely this is just the same as an plain clothes police car. Who says a van should be any different?

Phillvr6

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titiany said:

Phillvr6 said:
No, I'm saying if they were to use such a vehicle to catch people speeding etc that would be well and truely out of order.
Phill



Surely this is just the same as an plain clothes police car. Who says a van should be any different?


Far from it IMO, plain unmarked cars are just that...unmarked, whereas the van in question is actually disguised as something else.

I can spot an unmarked car, if vans like this are to be used for traffic duties what chance do we stand?

cotty

42,215 posts

313 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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Phillvr6 said:
I can spot an unmarked car, if vans like this are to be used for traffic duties what chance do we stand?




I don’t understand you problem, the police disguise their police cars by taking off the logo’s, lights and change the colour to go in effect undetected and you agree this is ok but when they (if they acually are) disguise one of their vans its different somehow

So by your rational if the unmarked police car had a companies logo on the side you would have a problem

If the van was plain that would be ok ?????



>> Edited by cotty on Tuesday 1st March 10:47

Phillvr6

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Tuesday 1st March 2005
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Don't get me wrong, I don't like unmarked police cars, but you do at least have a sporting chance of spotting them.

If they started putting fake company signage on the cars it would make spotting them much harder. So yes this would be a problem

In the past I have spotted an unmarked car with a GB sticker on it and thought this was unfair.

Had the van been unmarked, yes this would have been better all IMHO of course.

Think about it, if you passed what you thought was a 24 hour boarding company van, and were then pulled over by that van, how would you feel?

Phill



titiany

2,122 posts

261 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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Phillvr6 said:

Think about it, if you passed what you thought was a 24 hour boarding company van, and were then pulled over by that van, how would you feel?



I'd think 'cunning gits'. However, I hate to go all moral, but we are doing anything worthy of a tug, is this not surely our own blimmin' fault?

However, if I were stopped by a van marked with a company name, the only problem I would have is that being a female and on my own, I would be slightly worried about getting their identification.

Phillvr6

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Tuesday 1st March 2005
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The way I see is that if I am driving above the speedlimit and dont spot a marked or unmarked plod car, I deserve whatever I get for not being as observan as I should.

If however the police vehicles are disguised as something cmpletely different, as is the case with the van that is stickered up as a company vehicle....well thats just not cricket is it?

cotty

42,215 posts

313 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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Phillvr6 said:
Don't get me wrong, I don't like unmarked police cars, but you do at least have a sporting chance of spotting them.

If they started putting fake company signage on the cars it would make spotting them much harder. So yes this would be a problem


So its ok as long as you can spot them.

The whole point it that they are supposed to be undetectable to catch people doing things that they would not do if a fully liveried police car was there.

Phillvr6

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Tuesday 1st March 2005
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cotty said:

So its ok as long as you can spot them.


Yes

cotty said:
The whole point it that they are supposed to be undetectable to catch people doing things that they would not do if a fully liveried police car was there.


Yes, doesn't mean I have to like it.

Jinx

12,018 posts

289 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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Reminds me of the Simpson's when they were being watched and the van pulls up outside their house....

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centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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cotty said:

The whole point it that they are supposed to be undetectable to catch people doing things that they would not do if a fully liveried police car was there.



*cough*...speed cameras...*cough*

chris_freebie

957 posts

268 months

Tuesday 1st March 2005
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Jinx said:
Reminds me of the Simpson's when they were being watched and the van pulls up outside their house....

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DAMN our cover is blown, and then two seconds later

Isn't it time the motorway speed limit was raised to 155mph ? Bmw's are limited to that speed for safety so it makes sense.