The Muslim Girl & Human Rights (sorry, Ted!)
Discussion
Apologies to our glorious leader for 'opening the wound,' so to speak but I wanted to make a point about this matter which I thought significant ito much of the politically correct based angst that seems so topical currently.
Chatting to my pater in law last night, we were pondering quite why everyone seems so damn wet these days?
As was pointed out towards the end of the aforementioned thread, the adoption and bastardisation of the 'human rights' concept seems to be at the heart of things.
Everywhere you turn, this phrase appears to be banging heads with 'political correctness' itself for vernaculous ubiquity and permeates areas other than the battlefield or warzone, from where it originated and carries it's only meaningful currency.
However, when every oink and their dog are able to bleat "it's against my human rights" at each and every juncture, it devalues our sense of societal perspective and makes an even greater ass of contemporary law making...
So from the theatre of conflict where life & death is the raison d'etre, the law has taken it upon itself to champion the human rights mechanism to produce a vertitable minefield of legislative 'trips' which threaten to batter any course of logical, physically harmless, commonsensical courses of action - be they bourne of the workplace (where an employer is ground down for 'unfairly' dismissing the thief or violent scourge) or here, in the context of secondary education, an arena where the politcos debate falling standards and bemoan disciplinary lapses yet simultaneously sit by whilst cheeky piss takers play the system like old chess grand masters, laughing heartily as the compensation ticket is contemplated...
But how or why, have we come to this?
I believe it's simple.
Our involvement in the Europarl has brought us many impositions, many restrictions and offensive regulations but I think little compares to the malaise our signing of the Human Rights garbage has caused.
Specifically - and I'm going to defend the judiciary here - because their remit, namely supreme objectivity, is ultimately defined by the Euorpean Court and it's vile brand of creeping, pernicious soft communism: it is therefore of little or no surprise to find our natural sense of fairplay and democracy being so maliciously abused by our own courts.
And that, my friends, is the nub of it.
>>> Edited by derestrictor on Thursday 3rd March 10:32
Chatting to my pater in law last night, we were pondering quite why everyone seems so damn wet these days?
As was pointed out towards the end of the aforementioned thread, the adoption and bastardisation of the 'human rights' concept seems to be at the heart of things.
Everywhere you turn, this phrase appears to be banging heads with 'political correctness' itself for vernaculous ubiquity and permeates areas other than the battlefield or warzone, from where it originated and carries it's only meaningful currency.
However, when every oink and their dog are able to bleat "it's against my human rights" at each and every juncture, it devalues our sense of societal perspective and makes an even greater ass of contemporary law making...
So from the theatre of conflict where life & death is the raison d'etre, the law has taken it upon itself to champion the human rights mechanism to produce a vertitable minefield of legislative 'trips' which threaten to batter any course of logical, physically harmless, commonsensical courses of action - be they bourne of the workplace (where an employer is ground down for 'unfairly' dismissing the thief or violent scourge) or here, in the context of secondary education, an arena where the politcos debate falling standards and bemoan disciplinary lapses yet simultaneously sit by whilst cheeky piss takers play the system like old chess grand masters, laughing heartily as the compensation ticket is contemplated...
But how or why, have we come to this?
I believe it's simple.
Our involvement in the Europarl has brought us many impositions, many restrictions and offensive regulations but I think little compares to the malaise our signing of the Human Rights garbage has caused.
Specifically - and I'm going to defend the judiciary here - because their remit, namely supreme objectivity, is ultimately defined by the Euorpean Court and it's vile brand of creeping, pernicious soft communism: it is therefore of little or no surprise to find our natural sense of fairplay and democracy being so maliciously abused by our own courts.
And that, my friends, is the nub of it.
>>> Edited by derestrictor on Thursday 3rd March 10:32
Well said!!!!!
It was signing the Human rights act that created the big gravy train where lawyers funded by Legal aid can say that their client's human rights have been infringed.
Human Rights-The right to life, to freedom from oppresion and torture.
2004 human rights as defined by the lentilist scum-The right to sponge off the state all your life and disobey any of Britain's laws and regulations you disagree with.
>> Edited by JagLover on Thursday 3rd March 10:44
It was signing the Human rights act that created the big gravy train where lawyers funded by Legal aid can say that their client's human rights have been infringed.
Human Rights-The right to life, to freedom from oppresion and torture.
2004 human rights as defined by the lentilist scum-The right to sponge off the state all your life and disobey any of Britain's laws and regulations you disagree with.
>> Edited by JagLover on Thursday 3rd March 10:44
I fear you are bang on the money sire.
A law created to be 'caring and sharing' that has been hijacked by an unsilent minority to become 'happy and clappy'
Without doubt there needs to be a limit to the explotation of individuals (in certain terms) but to do that in such a blunt and overly protective manner as to stifle business and society is tantamount to lunacy IMHO.
A law created to be 'caring and sharing' that has been hijacked by an unsilent minority to become 'happy and clappy'
Without doubt there needs to be a limit to the explotation of individuals (in certain terms) but to do that in such a blunt and overly protective manner as to stifle business and society is tantamount to lunacy IMHO.
There was a piece in the Daily Mail/Mail on Sunday about this and how it all really started after the war when it was felt that if everyone followed the rules(at an international level) then there would be no more war.
It has, apparently, developed on from this to the point where the lawyers are in charge, rather than being an information source to the real leaders.
It SUCKS!
It has, apparently, developed on from this to the point where the lawyers are in charge, rather than being an information source to the real leaders.
It SUCKS!
derestrictor said:
....a good point....
Yep, its daft isnt it. In principle I imagine the idea of a "human rights" piece of legislation is good. I mean, it protects people, right?
Well, more often its used incorrectly and inappropriately for cases which simply should never have got to court.
What puzzles me about all of this is that there is little tolerance. I dont mean racial or religious tolerance, but basic "people" tolerance. I mean, I personally wouldnt take the pi55 out of someone who was a jew and insist on eating pork all the time. Just as much as if some 15 year old girl wanted to wear her mark of religion, I couldnt care less.....
If a colleague wanted to turn up to work in a pink tu-tu then he can expect quite a few jokes at their expense, but if it doesnt harm anyone, does it matter? Personally it doesnt bother me and if it makes you happy - fine.....
Quite why people have to keep falling on the sword of the european court of civil rights, or the swinging the axe of the human rights legislation I am not sure. Surely, all this rubbish could have been resolved before getting the law involved and succeeding in one thing only....
Making the solicitors richer.....
What I just don't understand is that people making these rulings are one has to assume, by the fact that they are in these positions, not stupid people, yet basic common sense seems to have been chucked out the window.
Talking to a friend who works for a large mobile phone company, he is about to have his yearly review, yet it is not called review as that can somehoew be seen as judging someone, so it has this malaise of a crap title which means nothing, and the whole point of it is to judge his previous years perfomance.
The attitude that the 'The world owes me' seems to be growing and people seem to be after a free ride in life anyway they can.
>> Edited by Dakkon on Thursday 3rd March 11:23
Talking to a friend who works for a large mobile phone company, he is about to have his yearly review, yet it is not called review as that can somehoew be seen as judging someone, so it has this malaise of a crap title which means nothing, and the whole point of it is to judge his previous years perfomance.
The attitude that the 'The world owes me' seems to be growing and people seem to be after a free ride in life anyway they can.
>> Edited by Dakkon on Thursday 3rd March 11:23
derestrictor said:
Sheeet!!
Merely refering to the sheet the girl took to extrodinary lengths to flaunt (christian: the coat of may coloureds
). And to continue the pun; an expletive complimenting you on you erudite ejaculation, and to futher continue the pun; my thoughts on the matter (not your opinion though, I too share similar opinions but my intelect has only developed as far as assenine quips).. off_again said:
The attitude that the 'The world owes me' seems to be growing and people seem to be after a free ride in life anyway they can.
I was thinking just that the other day..... must be a dying breed of people who want to do everything themselves.....
it's rife.
just look at paul stoddart's antics.
scruffy said:
Merely refering to the sheet the girl took to extrodinary lengths to flaunt (christian: the coat of may coloureds
Being in such eloquent company as this, I couldn't have come close to putting it better Scruffs!
chippy69 said:
could not agee more with all that has been said, did you happen to see or hear the speech she gave after the ruling, accusing her school of being racist bigots! I hear she is also planning to sue the school.
I've read the news stories, but I can't seem to find the name of her school. I want to contact them to offer my full support in this idiotic rulling. Does anyone know the name?
It's a muslim school
- At least 75% pupils are muslim
- Headteacher is muslim
- Parent assoc is muslim
They all got together and agreed that they had got the uniform just right (they're all allowed headscarves/burberry etc).
Along comes some muslim extremists, hiding their vitriol and hatred behind a vunerable young girl (parents dead), and bingo everyone scurries into the shrubberies and hide behind
- At least 75% pupils are muslim
- Headteacher is muslim
- Parent assoc is muslim
They all got together and agreed that they had got the uniform just right (they're all allowed headscarves/burberry etc).
Along comes some muslim extremists, hiding their vitriol and hatred behind a vunerable young girl (parents dead), and bingo everyone scurries into the shrubberies and hide behind
forever_driving said:
I've read the news stories, but I can't seem to find the name of her school. I want to contact them to offer my full support in this idiotic rulling. Does anyone know the name?
Denbigh High School in Luton
And by the way the school she is accusing of being racist bigots is 80% Muslim and the head teacher is a Bengali Muslim.
This episode is just one more chapter in the decline and fall of British society.
*deep breath*
Right, I don't know much about this case except for a 20-second soundbite I heard, but it involves a girl winning the right to wear muslim dress, as dictated by her religion, doesn't it?
If it's as imple as that, I don't have a problem with this ruling.
However I'm probably missing something...
Right, I don't know much about this case except for a 20-second soundbite I heard, but it involves a girl winning the right to wear muslim dress, as dictated by her religion, doesn't it?
If it's as imple as that, I don't have a problem with this ruling.
However I'm probably missing something...
DeR: once again spot on.
we all know the problem this "human rights" legislation is causing, this girl is just the latest tip of a fast growing mountain of free loading, self rightous, minorities who are milking the system for all they can get. and if you really want to get annoyed look at yesterday's news about an illigel immigrant drunk driver that killed a you boy and the lawyers have appealed to keep him in the country...
but how do we claw ourselves back to reality?
where:
i. the process benefits the majority
ii. the element of competition is realised by people that life is often unfair...bloody tough i say, sink or learn to swim
iii. and common bloody sense prevails again
what do we do?
i. demand a political backlash aginast this culture or ii. withdraw from the charter of human rights
iii. endure further cases like yesterday until they become even more ludicrous
i feel that i. will occur eventually, ii. pretty unlikely & iii. will continue until the will for i. & ii. happen by which time this claim/compensation culture will be beyond redemption.
we all know the problem this "human rights" legislation is causing, this girl is just the latest tip of a fast growing mountain of free loading, self rightous, minorities who are milking the system for all they can get. and if you really want to get annoyed look at yesterday's news about an illigel immigrant drunk driver that killed a you boy and the lawyers have appealed to keep him in the country...
but how do we claw ourselves back to reality?
where:
i. the process benefits the majority
ii. the element of competition is realised by people that life is often unfair...bloody tough i say, sink or learn to swim
iii. and common bloody sense prevails again
what do we do?
i. demand a political backlash aginast this culture or ii. withdraw from the charter of human rights
iii. endure further cases like yesterday until they become even more ludicrous
i feel that i. will occur eventually, ii. pretty unlikely & iii. will continue until the will for i. & ii. happen by which time this claim/compensation culture will be beyond redemption.
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