What advice would you give?

[srebbe64]

I've just been chatting on the phone to a friend of mine who runs a business who wanted some advice.

Basically, he employed someone three months ago and this chap has taken about twenty days off sick so far (that's one day in three). They were mainly odd single days. This week however, he's been off all week saying that he's damaged his arm - and, indeed, he's got a doctor's certificate. However, yesterday he was spotted "boogying the night away" at a local night club - despite his claims that he's not well enough to come to work (where he's mainly on the phone).

What to do was the question?

I did tell him what I'd do if it were my decision, but I don't want to say that until I hear other people's views as it might colour their judgement.

[2 Smokin Barrels]

Sack him

[BliarOut]

If he's on a probationary contract I think you know the answer

[miniman]

IMHO if he's only been there for 3 months (and, in fact, only realistically 45 days total) then he's got no comeback if your friend just fires him. We always run a 90 day "probationary" period to cover situations like this but as far as I understand, less than 1 year in a job = get rid-able.

My opinion - byeee!

[MikeyT]

2 Smokin Barrels said:

Sack him

What he said.

[2 Smokin Barrels]

srebbe64 said:

I've just been chatting on the phone to a friend of mine who runs a business who wanted some advice.

Chatting? Blimey, I'd ve thought about 24 seconds would have been long enough for both ends of the conversation.

(unless of course this bloke can do something absolutely nobody else can do)

[Ribol]

srebbe64 said:

I did tell him what I'd do if it were my decision, but I don't want to say that until I hear other people's views as it might colour their judgement.

You have already made your own mind up so the answer is not for your benefit.
You have already told your friend your answer so he is not interested in the answer.
Am I missing something?

[srebbe64]

Ribol said:

srebbe64 said: I did tell him what I'd do if it were my decision, but I don't want to say that until I hear other people's views as it might colour their judgement. You have already made your own mind up so the answer is not for your benefit. You have already told your friend your answer so he is not interested in the answer. Am I missing something?

It's called "curiosity". I tend to find that PHers (in the main) tend to be of a very like mind to me.

[superlightr]

p45

[2 Smokin Barrels]

srebbe64 said:

PHers (in the main) tend to be of a very like mind to me.

I flippin hope not.

[srebbe64]

Well you guessed it!

The bloke's having a laugh. I told him to pop a letter through his letterbox telling him he's fired with immedate effect and not to pay him a penny more.

I wish all business decisions were that easy!

[2 Smokin Barrels]

srebbe64 said:

Well you guessed it! The bloke's having a laugh. I told him to pop a letter through his letterbox telling him he's fired with immedate effect and not to pay him a penny more. I wish all business decisions were that easy!

Or perhaps meet him at the nightclub & have the satisfaction of giving it to him face to face

[towman]

Dont infringe his human rights by sacking him. He deserves an annual membership to the gym to keep him fit, three weeks in a detox clinic, higher wages, less hours, designer uniform, taxi to work (let him keep his company car at home), key to the stationery cupboard, sex with the member of staff of his choice, his own secretary, his own masseur, company credit card. And of course.......luncheon vouchers.

If he gives him anything less, your mate has working conditions perceived to be worse than a Victorian Mill owner.

Thats about what everybody expects these days isn`t it?

Steve

[srebbe64]

What amazes me is how many employers are scared stiff of the legal ramifications of sacking someone, regardless of the offence or how long (or short) they've been employed.

Years ago I had a rep borrow my company car to visit a client. It transpired he was curb-crawling in my motor. The coppers took the number plate and contacted me.

Obviously I sacked the bloke on the spot. However, he tried to sue me for unfair dismissal!

It transpired he couldn't tell his missus why he'd been fired so he invented something trivial - but then his missus insisted that he pursue the claim. I phoned him up and said "see you in court mate". Needless-to-say, he didn't pursue the claim.

[2 Smokin Barrels]

Even with the new legislation which was introduced last October, sometimes you just have to pull the trigger & hope for the best.

What's happened to the fella with the gun in the emoticons? Or is he just hiding from me?

Found him

>> Edited by 2 Smokin Barrels on Thursday 3rd March 20:10

[jolley]

2 Smokin Barrels said:

(unless of course this bloke can do something absolutely nobody else can do)

Yes.... get paid (and not sacked) for only turning up 75% of the time!!

[c c]

When he is there is he any good? If so he needs to be told straight “either come in all week or not at all”.

[2 Smokin Barrels]

c c said:

When he is there is he any good? If so he needs to be told straight “either come in all week or not at all”.

It's way past that.