Same BA Boeing 747 blowns number 2 engine again
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The Boeing 747 that flew from LAX to Heathrow last week on 3 engines, that had to divert to Manchester with low fuel has just had it's number 2 engine go again.
Full story here.
www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1987463/
Bit worrying an engine can go pop, be replaced then about a week later have to shut down the replacement engine.
Full story here.
www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1987463/
Bit worrying an engine can go pop, be replaced then about a week later have to shut down the replacement engine.
ETOP (Extended Range Twin Engined Operations) have been quite common for over twenty years now - Boeing 757s, 767s,777s and Airbus A330s regularly fly across large expanses of oceans. Not one twin engined airliner has been lost due to engines stopping in flight.
Having said that, Lauda Air lost a 767 and all on board when one of its engines went into full reverse thrust - not a good thing to have happen at 35,000 feet and 500 mph. That accident happened over land so it was'nt technically an ETOPS flight.
Having said that, Lauda Air lost a 767 and all on board when one of its engines went into full reverse thrust - not a good thing to have happen at 35,000 feet and 500 mph. That accident happened over land so it was'nt technically an ETOPS flight.
simpo two said:
Having said that, Lauda Air lost a 767 and all on board when one of its engines went into full reverse thrust - not a good thing to have happen at 35,000 feet and 500 mph.
Erk indeed. Couldn't they have shut off the engine, recovered and continued on one engine?
only if they knew what the problem was in time.
Hardcore2000 said:
Has anybody noticed a remarkable drop off in air accidents in the last few years whilst more and more flights are taking off every year. I think we may hae reached a turning point in air safety.
I sincerely hope you're not afflicted with Murraywalker Syndrome.......
mybrainhurts said:
Has anybody noticed a remarkable drop off in air accidents in the last few years whilst more and more flights are taking off every year. I think we may hae reached a turning point in air safety.
I sincerely hope you're not afflicted with Murraywalker Syndrome.......
me too i may be flying next week
Hardcore2000 said:
Hardcore2000 said:
Has anybody noticed a remarkable drop off in air accidents in the last few years whilst more and more flights are taking off every year. I think we may hae reached a turning point in air safety.
I sincerely hope you're not afflicted with Murraywalker Syndrome.......
me too i may be flying next week
You'd be better off travelling in an aeroplane......
I wouldn't worry about it - i build GE CF6 cores for one of the top overhaul sites, would need to be some serious 
ups to completely lose an aircraft. Engine shut downs aren't that uncommon.
about a year ago we had a bearing retaining bolt work loose and block and oil scavange pipe resulting in complete oil loss in 6 mins a few cycles after the overhaul - now that was serious.
ups to completely lose an aircraft. Engine shut downs aren't that uncommon. about a year ago we had a bearing retaining bolt work loose and block and oil scavange pipe resulting in complete oil loss in 6 mins a few cycles after the overhaul - now that was serious.
w00dy said:
I wouldn't worry about it - i build GE CF6 cores for one of the top overhaul sites, would need to be some serious
about a year ago we had a bearing retaining bolt work loose and block and oil scavange pipe resulting in complete oil loss in 6 mins a few cycles after the overhaul - now that was serious.
Aw! Schucks! Is that all Woody?
proper little ray of sunshine you are mate! 
Eric Mc said:
Having said that, Lauda Air lost a 767 and all on board when one of its engines went into full reverse thrust - not a good thing to have happen at 35,000 feet and 500 mph. That accident happened over land so it was'nt technically an ETOPS flight.
When did that happen? I bet it didn't even rate a mention in the US papers.
The accident happened in 1991 over Thailand. It nearly put Lauda Air out of business.
The engine reverse was so sudden (and at max throttle) that it probably pulled the wing off, or at least flipped the aircraft over leading to a structural break up. One wing was found 17km from the main crash site indicating that a wing did indeed come off at an early point in the break up sequence.
I'm pretty sure it received apprpriate coverage in the American pres and other media at the time. It certainly made the news over here. 223 people died so it was a big accident.
The engine reverse was so sudden (and at max throttle) that it probably pulled the wing off, or at least flipped the aircraft over leading to a structural break up. One wing was found 17km from the main crash site indicating that a wing did indeed come off at an early point in the break up sequence.
I'm pretty sure it received apprpriate coverage in the American pres and other media at the time. It certainly made the news over here. 223 people died so it was a big accident.
No, as far as I know that is the only fatal accident involving a Lauda Air aircraft. The aircraft involved was Boeing 767 OE-LAV, sister ship to OE-LAU.
I wouldn't have thought that Nikki Lauda would have gone out of his way to "drag the accident in front of the cameras". I'm pretty sure that he would have preferred NOT to have this type of publicity.
I think it was not long afterwards trha Austrian Airways took a controlling interest in Lauda Air and shortly after that ousted Lauda from the board of his own company.
>> Edited by Eric Mc on Saturday 5th March 16:36
I wouldn't have thought that Nikki Lauda would have gone out of his way to "drag the accident in front of the cameras". I'm pretty sure that he would have preferred NOT to have this type of publicity.
I think it was not long afterwards trha Austrian Airways took a controlling interest in Lauda Air and shortly after that ousted Lauda from the board of his own company.
>> Edited by Eric Mc on Saturday 5th March 16:36
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