12 year old rapist!
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Mrs Fish

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Friday 11th March 2005
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He obviously hasn't got severe enough learing difficulties if he knows what to do with his todger and how to drive a car at 12

anaova said:
Life for boy, 12, who raped teacher

A 12-year-old boy who raped his teacher has been detained for life.

The schoolboy, who is one of Britain's youngest convicted rapists, attacked the woman as she sat next to him during a one-to-one teaching session.

Afterwards, he stole her car and drove it for 30 miles before dumping it.

The stocky youngster, who is just 5ft 3in tall and has severe learning difficulties, admitted at an earlier hearing raping the teacher at a special needs centre in County Durham in November last year, and the theft of her car.

At Teesside Crown Court, Mr Justice Grigson ordered the teenager, who cannot be named for legal reasons, be detained for life.

Sentencing the cropped-haired boy, now 13, the judge added: "These problems are not of your own making, but it is plain that until these problems are dealt with you are very likely to commit other offences, other offences as serious as this, so the public has to be properly protected until such time as your problems have been assisted."

Plotloss

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Friday 11th March 2005
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What has happened to this country?

Mrs Fish

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Friday 11th March 2005
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Plotloss said:
What has happened to this country?


It's gone to the dogs

meeja

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Friday 11th March 2005
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It isn't just me is it?

20 years ago, this sort of thing didn't happen with the frequency that it is reported to these days does it?

NiceCupOfTea

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Friday 11th March 2005
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mybrainhurts

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Friday 11th March 2005
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story said:
the public has to be properly protected until such time as your problems have been assisted."


Assisted.....?

He needs someone to hold her down....?

Plotloss

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Friday 11th March 2005
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meeja said:
It isn't just me is it?

20 years ago, this sort of thing didn't happen with the frequency that it is reported to these days does it?


No its not just you.

But thats something I have often wondered.

Has the incidence of this sort of crime genuinely gone up or are there just more news people these days.

I'd be interested to hear Dibble's or Gone's thoughts on the matter as they have a goodly number of years in service...

telecat

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270 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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And to balance things Up! Nurse jailed for sex with 14 year old.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4337417.stm

JagLover

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Friday 11th March 2005
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Plotloss said:


No its not just you.

But thats something I have often wondered.

Has the incidence of this sort of crime genuinely gone up or are there just more news people these days.

I'd be interested to hear Dibble's or Gone's thoughts on the matter as they have a goodly number of years in service...


I don't think overall crime has changed that much recently but violent crime is rising rapidly.

As a side note there a now more street Robberies in one of London's more dubious boroughs in a month than there were in the whole of Britain in 1960 in a year. If you think on that statistic you start to wonder very hard what has changed.

Mrs Fish

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JagLover said:


As a side note there a now more street Robberies in one of London's more dubious boroughs in a month than there were in the whole of Britain in 1960 in a year. If you think on that statistic you start to wonder very hard what has changed.


Lack of police walking the beat.

ed

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304 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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JagLover said:


Plotloss said:


No its not just you.

But thats something I have often wondered.

Has the incidence of this sort of crime genuinely gone up or are there just more news people these days.

I'd be interested to hear Dibble's or Gone's thoughts on the matter as they have a goodly number of years in service...




I don't think overall crime has changed that much recently but violent crime is rising rapidly.

As a side note there a now more street Robberies in one of London's more dubious boroughs in a month than there were in the whole of Britain in 1960 in a year. If you think on that statistic you start to wonder very hard what has changed.



And all the Government want to do is cherry pick the stats to spin their way out of it.

We need the political equivalent of Gavin Henson to metaphorically dump tackle the Labour party as they are all too well practiced at the avoiding tactics.

>> Edited by ed on Friday 11th March 14:17

Dakkon

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Friday 11th March 2005
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Mrs Fish said:

JagLover said:


As a side note there a now more street Robberies in one of London's more dubious boroughs in a month than there were in the whole of Britain in 1960 in a year. If you think on that statistic you start to wonder very hard what has changed.



Lack of police walking the beat.


Even more ironically, our dear PM promises more cops, but only the transport police are currently recruiting, so im told....

JagLover

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264 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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Mrs Fish said:

JagLover said:


As a side note there a now more street Robberies in one of London's more dubious boroughs in a month than there were in the whole of Britain in 1960 in a year. If you think on that statistic you start to wonder very hard what has changed.



Lack of police walking the beat.


That is part of it Mrs Fish certainly because street Robberies will be most effected by this-but there has to be more to it than that, we cannot blame it all on lack of police-do we need to turn Britain into a Police state with one permanently stationed on every street?.

It is caused by the collapse of our society- a collapse that has happened at a time of ever increasing prosperity.

Mrs Fish

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Friday 11th March 2005
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JagLover said:


It is caused by the collapse of our society- a collapse that has happened at a time of ever increasing prosperity.


The whole country is screwed with stupid laws that have no bearing on everyday life and only serve to be on the side of the criminal and not the victim.

agent006

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293 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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Plotloss said:

Has the incidence of this sort of crime genuinely gone up or are there just more news people these days.


Add to that there's not so much stigam attached to being raped these days, so women are more likely to report an attack.

Jinx

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Friday 11th March 2005
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JagLover said:

It is caused by the collapse of our society- a collapse that has happened at a time of ever increasing prosperity.


Decadence and deviants - prosperity is a double edge sword.

wolves_wanderer

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Friday 11th March 2005
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Dakkon said:

Mrs Fish said:


JagLover said:


As a side note there a now more street Robberies in one of London's more dubious boroughs in a month than there were in the whole of Britain in 1960 in a year. If you think on that statistic you start to wonder very hard what has changed.




Lack of police walking the beat.



Even more ironically, our dear PM promises more cops, but only the transport police are currently recruiting, so im told....


Nope, I think you'll find we have another 30,000 or so poorly trained, powerless "Community Support Officers" to help us feel safe in our beds This will no doubt be trumpeted as a "massive increase in front-line policing" double

Mrs Fish

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Friday 11th March 2005
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What I don't understand is...

That this boy is to be detained for life, not as in the usual murder sentence of 10-15 years, but actual life, for rape, whereas those three mosters that hacked the boy to death have only got 13 or so years, less probably.

I just don't understand the logic....

nightmare

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Friday 11th March 2005
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I don think tehre has been much change in crime at all as it goes - I think there is definitely a change in reporting levels of this stuff.

Im sure that when the Moors murderers, peter sutcliffe etc were reported in the news half the country went 'oh this didnt hapen when I were a lad', and when the nazis ran concentration camps the whole world saw utterly inexplicable evil....and just forgot that the British and Spanish had been committing similar levels of atrocity ionly a few hundred years earlier everywhere in the globe..and so it goes on..

I think there may well be an increase in crimes being committed at younger ages - and Id blame that on the media for glamourising thes things too much.....look at our 'trash' tele now - Big Brother (or the "will staggeringly irritating publicity seekers have sex with each toher" show), Jordons tits (all three of them), 'stuff they banned from tele but we'll show you now' All this stuff is watched by every generation....hardly a surprise when some of it spills over into reality is it?

egoboss

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259 months

Friday 11th March 2005
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Mrs Fish said:

Plotloss said:
What has happened to this country?



It's gone to the dogs


st tony bliar happened.