Acceptable to charge £100?
Acceptable to charge £100?
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docevi1

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10,430 posts

277 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Quick yay or nay question.

At Uni we have to get our dissertation bound using the school's covers hence we have to use the Uni printing service. Three days in advance of when you want to collect it's £6, two days £10, same day £100 (all assuming you've printed the >100 pages at 6p/page prior).

A friend thinks thats perfectly acceptable as it's a deterent (understandable they need a deterent as everyone would take it on the last day and they'd be swamped), but since it's a monopoly I cannot believe they get away with charging £100 to those who are getting it printed (as for them leaving it to the last minute, well thats daft anyway).

alexkp

16,484 posts

273 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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docevi1 said:
Quick yay or nay question.

At Uni we have to get our dissertation bound using the school's covers hence we have to use the Uni printing service. Three days in advance of when you want to collect it's £6, two days £10, same day £100 (all assuming you've printed the >100 pages at 6p/page prior).

A friend thinks thats perfectly acceptable as it's a deterent (understandable they need a deterent as everyone would take it on the last day and they'd be swamped), but since it's a monopoly I cannot believe they get away with charging £100 to those who are getting it printed (as for them leaving it to the last minute, well thats daft anyway).


I think you've answered your own question here.

Sounds perfectly fair to me.

ginge

2,929 posts

272 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Can see why they've done it but sounds ridiculous. They're charging too much even at £6. I got a large document bound including 2 clear plastic covers (which they rip you off for) for less than £3. I would ask for a copy of their cover sheets. If they won't give you one scan it in or search the net for a copy of theirs. Our uni wouldn't give me their template for cover sheets so I searched their site for the originals. Didn't find the current ones but found ones from 1997! Have been using them for a year so far and no complaints as yet!

simpo two

92,697 posts

294 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Don't you hate it when lefties (the Uni) try to be capitalists? As if you don't pay enough to attend already. Plus, they're all on decent salaries anyway (courtesy of me): they don't need the money.

docevi1

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10,430 posts

277 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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anonymous said:
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I must be strange then if others think it's acceptable to run a monopoly and then charge an extorinate amount of money to bind some paper together. (not print, you have to do that seperatly - this involves taking the paper you supply, putting a sheet on the front and back and punching some holes in).

I do understand a deterent should be done, but £100? That is disgraceful! It's almost as if they know fine well people will do it so they try to make as much as they reasonably can out of it.

Personally if I could get the cover sheets I'd get mine bound elsewhere, but since it's a Uni project it has to be done in Uni to get them more money!

popov123

4,084 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Sounds a bit steep to me I must admit.

If they are prepared to do it for £6 (which they are obviously still making a reasonable profit on) then you would think a more appropriate deterrent would be maybe £15 - £20 at absolute max...

Has anyone actually paid them the £100 for a last minute emergency yet???

Thats a couple of decent nights out!

alexkp

16,484 posts

273 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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docevi1 said:

anonymous said:
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I must be strange then if others think it's acceptable to run a monopoly and then charge an extorinate amount of money to bind some paper together. (not print, you have to do that seperatly - this involves taking the paper you supply, putting a sheet on the front and back and punching some holes in).

I do understand a deterent should be done, but £100? That is disgraceful! It's almost as if they know fine well people will do it so they try to make as much as they reasonably can out of it.

Personally if I could get the cover sheets I'd get mine bound elsewhere, but since it's a Uni project it has to be done in Uni to get them more money!


The bottom line is they are being very upfront about it. This is a deterrent, probably to prevent a nightmare of trying to bind hundreds of dissertations on the last day.

You have plenty of warning - do it ahead of time!

docevi1

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Tuesday 26th April 2005
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anonymous said:
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Thats not strictly true, we only found out because someone specifically asked - if you turned up on the day thats when you'd find out as it's down as £10 if you take it quicker than 3 days.

Personally mine will be with them on Monday / Tuesday at the latest, but I can't help but feel they are taking the urine out of Students - it's not as if we get that much help from anyone as it is

moleamol

15,887 posts

292 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Just tell them it's due a week later

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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That's ridiculous! Our dissertations cost about £30 maximum to bind, and that's for a 10,000-word monster with bibliography, abstract, introduction and covers thrown in too. All double-line spaced.

docevi1

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Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Twincam16 said:
That's ridiculous! Our dissertations cost about £30 maximum to bind, and that's for a 10,000-word monster with bibliography, abstract, introduction and covers thrown in too. All double-line spaced.
Um 10k != monster.

Mines 20k minimum with all the gubbins you have with a full code listing as well (theres around 3000 lines of code in my program which need to be printed and formatted . For example, 1300 lines = around 30 pages, although admitadly we are allowed to double page and small font.

agent006

12,058 posts

293 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Twincam16 said:
10,000-word monster



AHA

AAAHAHA



And i thought we had it easy at our uni. Although our binding is free though.

>> Edited by agent006 on Tuesday 26th April 23:26

docevi1

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Tuesday 26th April 2005
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to be fair agent006, one of my mates Physcology disserations is only 4k.

Some courses are a joke, but thats not the point of the thread

Twincam16

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287 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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And I might add that our 10k dissertation is only half of the coursework this term - there are two other 5000-word essays to be submitted too, totalling 20,000 words.

Lets just say that there are plenty of courses I know of that I'd rather be doing right now

>> Edited by Twincam16 on Tuesday 26th April 23:47

docevi1

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Wednesday 27th April 2005
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pah. This year has seen me doing:

* 20k dissertation with a 3k loc program developed from scratch to simulate a cars acceleration.
* 10k interim report on the above
* writing a game from scratch (the entire engine, scripts the works.)
* writing a 2k word essay on public key infrastructures
* cracking passwords which took up so many days computation
* writing simulations of network performance, testing and writing up.
* doing a code review and writing a report on our success.
* developing a 3D engine from scratch which could show a given set of polygons from three different view points whilst been able to fiddle with the structure of the scene.
* Write an essay on interfaces, 3k.
* Write a webserver which could parse files and send the correct responses for all manor of different requests.
* learn a new language in 2 / 3 days and write a website which could read / write to db's in said language.
* prepare cash flow statements, accounts, ratios etc since I take an accounting module.

I'd almost prefer 20k essays

rico

7,917 posts

284 months

Wednesday 27th April 2005
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I had my dissertation bound for about £2 from a local printers shop. Piece of cake and done in about 5minutes.

They're taking you to the cleaners mate!

superflid

2,254 posts

294 months

Wednesday 27th April 2005
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docevi1 said:

* cracking passwords which took up so many days computation


Don't take this as criticism, just curious, but why would course work involve cracking passwords?

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Wednesday 27th April 2005
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rico said:
I had my dissertation bound for about £2 from a local printers shop. Piece of cake and done in about 5minutes.

They're taking you to the cleaners mate!

Same here.
Where I went, you either paid for the uni to do it or they'd happily supply the appropriate covers for you to get it done yourself. Everybody's happy.

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Wednesday 27th April 2005
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superflid said:

docevi1 said:

* cracking passwords which took up so many days computation



Don't take this as criticism, just curious, but why would course work involve cracking passwords?

Don't recall him specifically stating that it was coursework!

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Wednesday 27th April 2005
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docevi1 said:
to be fair agent006, one of my mates Physcology disserations is only 4k.

Some courses are a joke, but thats not the point of the thread


Quality, not quantity dear boy.

I'd be careful calling physchology a joke… they'll run rings round you, screw with your head and then laugh at you…