Blair and Howard killed well almost
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has Fatty 2 Jags got the lentelists off his roof yet 
yertis said:
There is one down side to Bliar popping his clogs.
Johnny Two-Jabs Piescott would be PM
But then we (I mean the Conservative Party) would win for sure.
But I'm not sure that's such a good thing now...
I think I know what you mean.
The economy has been on the slide since Labour took over in 1997 and it probably needs just one more Labour term in office for Labour supporters to have the true state of the economy staring them in the face rather than just looking at their mortgage rate (unknown to them no doubt, largely governed by US interest rates and other factors not connected with Labour's "management").
Maybe then, it will have got through to them finally and then we can be rid of Labour for a decade or more.
All I know, whoever gets in next will have a tough time; if it's Labour they'll try to tax their way out of the mess (as usual) and if it's Conservative they'll take a while to reduce spending on needless bureaucracy (and attending to many other matters).
While I'm thinking about it, have a look at www.conservatives.com/
These policies, all clearly stated, would be a breath of fresh air for the country. Come on folks, vote for them!
These policies, all clearly stated, would be a breath of fresh air for the country. Come on folks, vote for them!
james_j said:
While I'm thinking about it, have a look at www.conservatives.com/
These policies, all clearly stated, would be a breath of fresh air for the country. Come on folks, vote for them!
And you actually believe them? I remember what Howard did last time he was in the cabinet.
Mike (who, to be fair, doesn't believe any of the manifestos)
james_j said:
Twincam16 said:
There is one down side to Bliar popping his clogs.
Johnny Two-Jabs Piescott would be PM
But then we (I mean the Conservative Party) would win for sure.
But I'm not sure that's such a good thing now...
I think I know what you mean.
The economy has been on the slide since Labour took over in 1997 and it probably needs just one more Labour term in office for Labour supporters to have the true state of the economy staring them in the face rather than just looking at their mortgage rate (unknown to them no doubt, largely governed by US interest rates and other factors not connected with Labour's "management").
Maybe then, it will have got through to them finally and then we can be rid of Labour for a decade or more.
All I know, whoever gets in next will have a tough time; if it's Labour they'll try to tax their way out of the mess (as usual) and if it's Conservative they'll take a while to reduce spending on needless bureaucracy (and attending to many other matters).
The difference between a Labour and a Conservative balls-up of the economy is that, when the Tories ran it, they weren't dressing it up with borrowing and you could see it collapsing. The Tories saw their defeat coming a way off.
Labour, on the other hand, are going to get socked in the jaw with the economy sometime next term if they win. Economic fluctuations usually dictate a government's success, and all it'll take is a slightly shaky time, a few businesses going under, a bit of quick inflation, and all the things they were hiding behind will come clattering down.
Unfortunately, that time will also be the make-or-break moment for the Liberal Democrats. We've had the Tories make a mess of things, we've had Labour make a mess of things, and people are so blase about politics they'll 'give them a chance' without reading so much as their manifesto
FourWheelDrift said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4490809.stm
Oh grief, talk about journalartistic license:
peter allen said:
Mr Allen said he heard a loud bang but the prime minister, who was talking to a journalist at the time, was apparently "imperturbable".
"The rest of us certainly weren't imperturbable," Mr Allen said.
and then said:
peter allen said:
"All I remember was a red and white flash just in my mind which woke me up with a start," he said.
"The plane wobbled from side to side but it was also quite rough anyway because it was pretty cloudy and rainy. Lots of people looked momentarily shocked."
...managing to take note of what the weather was like and what people's reactions were at the moment of the strike, having been asleep at the time...no doubt this chap is related to James.
Even better:
A. Journalist not of the Sun or BBC of course said:
One journalist was talking privately to Mr Blair and when she suggested the lightning strike could have been a missile, the Labour leader just shrugged his shoulders and "didn't bat an eyelid"
Of course he didn't you moron, because if it had been a missile you would've been dead already, or at least plummeting towards Stansted with your hair on fire.
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