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Soundwave

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209 posts

258 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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Right guys,

I'm seriously considering taking on a weekend job, as it has come to light that I AM BROKE!!!!!
And also this looks like being the only way I may finally get on the property ladder so it has to be done (as much as I wish it didnt )

So what I'm curious to find out is does anyone have a second job?
What will my additional Tax Liability be?

I'm only thinking of doing something like working in a shop, HMV/Virgin/Smiths etc. for around 12hrs over the weekend so granted I wont be earning a fortune but a couple of hundred extra a month will see me clear of debts FAR quicker & thats what I'm after really.

Any advice appreciated oh & if anyone actually needs someone in Basildon to work weekends for them let me know

Neil

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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Has your local paper got a motoring section? If not, ring them up asking if you can do car reviews for them. If they accept, then all you have to do is collect new cars from showrooms promising the salesman a good report, drive it about doing your daily business, then at the end of the day, write up a little report, glean the vital stats from the press pack they'll give you, send the report back to the paper and the car back to the dealers, and basically get paid for driving other people's cars.

Pay's not ideal but it certainly beats any temping or working in shops. Helps to be positive in your reviews though. Be noteful rather than critical of the cars faults and you'll secure the paper more test drives.

v15ben

16,216 posts

270 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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Tax maybe a problem, I found that if you have two jobs then you pay a much higher tax rate than if you have just the one. That's why I have one job paying tax and the rest paid in cash and club vouchers at the end of the day!

JagLover

46,743 posts

264 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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Twincam16 said:
Has your local paper got a motoring section? If not, ring them up asking if you can do car reviews for them. If they accept, then all you have to do is collect new cars from showrooms promising the salesman a good report, drive it about doing your daily business, then at the end of the day, write up a little report, glean the vital stats from the press pack they'll give you, send the report back to the paper and the car back to the dealers, and basically get paid for driving other people's cars.

Pay's not ideal but it certainly beats any temping or working in shops. Helps to be positive in your reviews though. Be noteful rather than critical of the cars faults and you'll secure the paper more test drives.


Have you done this?

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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JagLover said:

Twincam16 said:
Has your local paper got a motoring section? If not, ring them up asking if you can do car reviews for them. If they accept, then all you have to do is collect new cars from showrooms promising the salesman a good report, drive it about doing your daily business, then at the end of the day, write up a little report, glean the vital stats from the press pack they'll give you, send the report back to the paper and the car back to the dealers, and basically get paid for driving other people's cars.

Pay's not ideal but it certainly beats any temping or working in shops. Helps to be positive in your reviews though. Be noteful rather than critical of the cars faults and you'll secure the paper more test drives.



Have you done this?


No, don't have the time, it was recommended to me once though when I was working in a showroom, and again when I was working for a newspaper.

Thing is, dealers will pay the paper to have their cars featured in local newspapers alongside their adverts in the car classifieds. The result effect is that it ends up actually being more profitable for the newspapers and paying you a small salary isn't going to harm the returns if they do deals with car showrooms in their motoring section.

Of course, this is why you've got to make sure the paper you ring up has classified ads but no car review section - make them an offer to expand it.

And you never know where it may take you. This is how most of the magazine columnists - and a certain Mr. J. Clarkson - started out.

mcflurry

9,189 posts

282 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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v15ben said:
Tax maybe a problem, I found that if you have two jobs then you pay a much higher tax rate than if you have just the one. That's why I have one job paying tax and the rest paid in cash and club vouchers at the end of the day!


almost... you pay 22% on most of your earnings above your tax code - £4895 for a single person this tax year (You pay 10% on the first 2090 above this level, then above 32400 you pay 40%)

Hence 2nd job means you usually have no allowance left so pay 22%

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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One other drawback to a second job is that you may find that the bloodsuckers want a tax return. Once you`re on their list, it`s bloody hard to get off.

Steve

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

269 months

Friday 29th April 2005
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I would also check your current contract because it may say that you are not allowed to take a second job.

Mikey G

4,875 posts

269 months

Saturday 30th April 2005
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Twincam16 said:
Has your local paper got a motoring section? If not, ring them up asking if you can do car reviews for them. If they accept, then all you have to do is collect new cars from showrooms promising the salesman a good report, drive it about doing your daily business, then at the end of the day, write up a little report, glean the vital stats from the press pack they'll give you, send the report back to the paper and the car back to the dealers, and basically get paid for driving other people's cars.

Pay's not ideal but it certainly beats any temping or working in shops. Helps to be positive in your reviews though. Be noteful rather than critical of the cars faults and you'll secure the paper more test drives.



Oooh how cool would that be












I have a Noble dealer down the road

>> Edited by Mikey G on Saturday 30th April 01:03

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Saturday 30th April 2005
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Hey, if you're worried about tax, just tell them that you're an immigrant and that you'd prefer to work for cash!

Soundwave

Original Poster:

209 posts

258 months

Saturday 30th April 2005
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Thanks for the input guys.

I knew the Tax issue would be a problem

As much as I'd love to write Car reports for our paper...they already have a motoring section

Thanks again & I'll keep you posted on what I do end up doing.

Neil

NorthernBoy

12,642 posts

286 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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v15ben said:
Tax maybe a problem, I found that if you have two jobs then you pay a much higher tax rate than if you have just the one. That's why I have one job paying tax and the rest paid in cash and club vouchers at the end of the day!


You are still liable for tax on this.

DanBoy

4,899 posts

272 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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I'd say do some bar work.

Some places don't pay too badly (a place near me pays £8.50 p/h).

Out of the retailers you listed, HMV pays the best, but even as a part timer it is a hell of alot of work - moreso than at most retail outlets - and you're expected to put in overtime just the same as everyone else when it comes to organising new sales and partaking in stock counts (HMV are about the only company I know that does stock counts after normal opening hours. As a result, an HMV stock count will start at 6pm and not finish until 1 or 2 the next morning).



>> Edited by DanBoy on Sunday 1st May 10:21

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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As already said, you will almost definitely suffer a straight 22% deduction in respect of Income Tax, purely because your tax allowances are fully used up by your main job. If the total you earn in the year in the part time job exceeds the National Insurance limits, which are now broadly similar to the tax limits, you could also suffer a further NI deduction of 10%.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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DanBoy said:
I'd say do some bar work.

Some places don't pay too badly (a place near me pays £8.50 p/h).


Where's that? Stringfellows?

I've never known a bar to pay more than £5 p/h. I've worked in a couple of bars and I can honestly say that, with the exception of the fact that to the people the other side of the bar you're the most popular person in the universe, it doesn't pay jack st. I found when I was working in a bar I was spending more than I earned on a weekly basis just down the pub or buying magazines.

Not worth it - leave it to the 18-year-olds.

DanBoy

4,899 posts

272 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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Twincam16 said:

DanBoy said:
I'd say do some bar work.

Some places don't pay too badly (a place near me pays £8.50 p/h).



Where's that? Stringfellows?

I've never known a bar to pay more than £5 p/h. I've worked in a couple of bars and I can honestly say that, with the exception of the fact that to the people the other side of the bar you're the most popular person in the universe, it doesn't pay jack st. I found when I was working in a bar I was spending more than I earned on a weekly basis just down the pub or buying magazines.

Not worth it - leave it to the 18-year-olds.


It's the highest paying pub I've come across too, but it shows that there are some out there.

The name of the pub escapes me, but it's situated on a village green somewhere near Pirbright in Surrey.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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It's probably a privately-owned place where they can afford it then.

You'd be surprised how many pubs and bars are owned by chains (not all are obvious - you can't tell one Mitchell & Butler pub from another for example. In fact I bet you've never heard of Mitchell & Butler, and they're just one chain - there are hundreds).

Of course, being a chain and therefore a corporation, there's no managers discretion about wages, and it seems that, like all mass-employing unskilled service chains, they'll charge as close to the minimum wage as they can get away with.

Plus - I don't know what soundwave does during the day, but pubs will have you working until past midnight every night if you want to make any kind of useable money that makes a difference. Imagine coming home at 1AM nearly every day and doing whatever you were doing.

I ditched my job in a pub and contacted Manpower before they'd got me anything - it really was preferable. I earned so little working behind the bar that I really was wasting my time.

YarisSi

1,538 posts

273 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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How much does HMV pay?

Know you probably don't want to hear this but ASDA are good employers and get 10% discount so food is cheaper and can just do weekends but normally have to do a minimu of 15 hours.
Just an idea.

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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M&B are one of the better chains I have worked for in the past.
Looking back on all the part time work I did, I wouldn't go back to pub or bar work. Shop work paid a bit less but freed up Saturday/Sunday evenings usually. You could be onto a cushy number if you choose the right place - small garden centres are usually quiet & easy work.
Best paid I did was labouring, worse work was making remould truck tyres on an industrial estate in Ivybridge, Devon.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Sunday 1st May 2005
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Best job I did was on car park security in Stanley Green. Other than dealing with trollies and the odd insurance claim, it basically amounted to standing around looking at the nice cars people brought shopping on a weekend, and getting paid £7.50 p.h. (£8 on Sundays) for the privlege.

Could get a bit hot though (it was July/August time)