Helen Clark Defects To Tories
Helen Clark Defects To Tories
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Hardcore2000

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788 posts

300 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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If anybody saw the politics show yesterday you may have seen the footage of her reeling after the vote anouncement on thursday night. She looked like she was having a stroke.

She has now announced she is defecting to the Tories. What a sell out slag. She loses her seat and defects. So much for her Labour principles all she wants is an easy meal ticket. Why does she assume the Tories will have her. The Woman MP's in the Conseratives have a lot more class than her so i dont see why the Tories would need or want her?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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How dare she. I just used my democratic right to vote that bitch out....

Oi, Clarke, you're not wanted, now just right off

JagLover

46,745 posts

264 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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Lets welcome her please, anyone however previously misguided who sees the light and comes over to the Tories should be welcomed with open arms.

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

297 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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I wonder how many others may defect when Blair gets the push and is replaced by someone who will lurch leftwards?

JagLover

46,745 posts

264 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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Mon Ami Mate said:
I wonder how many others may defect when Blair gets the push and is replaced by someone who will lurch leftwards?


It is coming, particularly as Labour is now even more restricted geographically.

I just hope Brown gets in soon, so people have a chance to see fully what Labour is all about before the next election.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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Mon Ami Mate said:
I wonder how many others may defect when Blair gets the push and is replaced by someone who will lurch leftwards?


Not that many.

Blair - however bad he may be - is all that stands between us, and Old Labour. When Old Labour return, as they will some time this term, Lord I hope the middle classes (the majority, don't forget) remember the bad old days and vote 'em out this time.

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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I actually think this is a more welcome development.

So far, all defections have been from the Tories to Labour or Labour to the Lib Dems or the Tories to the Lib Dems. As a result, the Lib Dems have always been seen as the White Knight in Shining Armour - the party that politicians think can do no wrong which is far from the truth. I mean, when did you last hear of a politician defecting from the Lib Dems?

This shows that this politician has had enough of gloss and fancies a bit of common sense, recognising perhaps the most moderate challenger in this last election.

Hardcore2000

Original Poster:

788 posts

300 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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I thought this would make a dull day more interesting. Its a hornets nest. She is the queen hornet.

james_j

3,996 posts

284 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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JagLover said:

Mon Ami Mate said:
I wonder how many others may defect when Blair gets the push and is replaced by someone who will lurch leftwards?



It is coming, particularly as Labour is now even more restricted geographically.

I just hope Brown gets in soon, so people have a chance to see fully what Labour is all about before the next election.



That's not a bad plan. This still seems like a good election to have lost.

wolves_wanderer

12,952 posts

266 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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Whilst it is undoubtedly good that there has been a defection from Labour to the Tories you have to wonder whether she would be so keen to defect had she kept her seat. I don't buy the line she is peddling about President Blairs remote style of leadership causing disaffection (after all, it has taken 8 years and a big foxtrot oscar from the honest burghers of Peeboro for her to realise this) it is transparently the case of a small character who sees the writing on the wall and is desperately trying to cling to the possibility of being an MP again.

BTW The Sun referred to her as a "Blair Babe" If you don't understand why that is funny then you are one of the lucky ones.

JagLover

46,745 posts

264 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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Her motives are irrelevant.

This is an excellant propaganda opportunity for the Conservatives-to show that Labour has become too left wing for centrist Labour supporters.

Think of all the publicity Labour got out of Tory defections.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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JagLover said:
Her motives are irrelevant.

This is an excellant propaganda opportunity for the Conservatives-to show that Labour has become too left wing for centrist Labour supporters.

Think of all the publicity Labour got out of Tory defections.


She's definitely not photogenic

wolves_wanderer

12,952 posts

266 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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JagLover said:
Her motives are irrelevant.

This is an excellant propaganda opportunity for the Conservatives-to show that Labour has become too left wing for centrist Labour supporters.


Yes, but are they really irrelevant? It doesn't take a genius to work out what kind of spin Labour would put on it - "Sour grapes from a perpetual back-bencher." Her problem is not that labour have moved to the left, rather it is an issue with Blair's style of government, not the same thing at all.

JagLover

46,745 posts

264 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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wolves_wanderer said:

Her problem is not that labour have moved to the left, rather it is an issue with Blair's style of government, not the same thing at all.


It is all a matter of presentation-I doubt the Tory defectors thought the Tories were 'lurching to the right' but that is how it was presented in the media.

Hardcore2000

Original Poster:

788 posts

300 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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she has just been on news room look east. The interviewer in the studio said it was just sour grapes and she retorted that her family had been in the labour party since 1899 so she was not just a blair babe blah blah blah. She looked like death. They then had to cut her off mid sentance which she was not happy about.

Jaglover

46,745 posts

264 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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Hardcore2000 said:
she has just been on news room look east. The interviewer in the studio said it was just sour grapes and she retorted that her family had been in the labour party since 1899 so she was not just a blair babe blah blah blah. She looked like death. They then had to cut her off mid sentance which she was not happy about.


As I thought, it is getting very little coverage in the media wings of the Labour party (the broadcast media)

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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But you laughed every time a Conservative MP defected, no? It's just one back.

puggit

49,790 posts

277 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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Amusingly her best friend is Jane Griffiths.

'Who?' I hear you cry...

Ex-MP for Reading East, who was deselected due to her stance on the war. She was replaced by a convicted sex offender, who lost to the Tories

So as they are both unemployed, they can both bugger off!

FourWheelDrift

92,248 posts

313 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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Herman Munster's ugly sister.

406

3,636 posts

282 months

Monday 9th May 2005
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From The Peterborough Evening Telegraph

The whole thing can be read here

www.peterboroughet.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=845&ArticleID=1021345

She now believes "a more inclusive one nation Conservative approach under a new leader would serve the country better."

However, the move has today baffled Tories in the city, and chairman John Peach said: "My first reaction is one of surprise. She said on election night that Peterborough had only been loaned to the Conservatives, and it would soon be back in her hands.

"I think the people of Peterborough have given their verdict."

Mr Jackson, the city's newly- elected Tory MP, said: "Nothing surprises me in politics, but a period of dignified silence from Helen Clark might be very appropriate."