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cazzer

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277 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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What is it with the media these days. The BBC being the prime miscreant in this....

When did "more" become prevelent in the language?

From the news this morning
"more quickly"
"more happy"
"more smoothly" (PH this mornin)

What's wrong with quicker, happier, smoother?

And when did people become "less well off" rather than poorer?

A good example of how this is very bad english use from the news last week was...

"Less large bacteria have been grown this year" actually meant smaller ones, not fewer as it sounds.

Angry of Manchester

m-five

12,322 posts

313 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Or how about "more quicker, more happier, more smoother"?

Or even "more quickerer, more happierer, more smootherer"?

I think the copyrighting has been outsourced to India (or the US)

>> Edited by m-five on Thursday 12th May 10:07

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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cazzer said:
And when did people become "less well off" rather than poorer?

Because 'poor' is now regarded as insulting - same way that 'working class' can't be mentioned but it's OK to have a snipe at the 'upper class'.
cazzer said:
"Less large bacteria have been grown this year" actually meant smaller ones, not fewer as it sounds.

Couldn't agree more. Even a TV ad for disinfectant treated 'bacteria' as a singular. The idiots didn't even know one of them is a bacterium

I know, let's call them 'bugs' instead. Better still, 'killer bugs'

srebbe64

13,021 posts

266 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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I agree. A sign of intelligence is summarising what you want to say in a few succint words.

Winston Chuchill was a good example of this. The statement: "never have so many owed so much to so few" is an astounding piece of communication by an intelligent man.

Nowadays many people would rather use five words than two - it's stupid.

>> Edited by srebbe64 on Thursday 12th May 10:11

simpo two

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294 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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m-five said:
I think the copyrighting has been outsourced to India (or the US)

Yep, if it was English it would be copywriting

lotuslad

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283 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Well, answering your "quick" query, quicker is a comparative verb. For instance, 'a BMW is quicker than a TVR'. However it would be wrong to say 'Paul started to drive quicker'; it should be 'Paul started to drive more quickly.' However people use the word interchangeably with faster and the same grammatical rules do not apply.

maxf

8,443 posts

270 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Is 'looking forwards not back' proper use of English? I'd have thought it should be 'backwards'??

cazzer

Original Poster:

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277 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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agreed, but I'm positive the BBC would say "more fast" these days.

srebbe64

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266 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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lotuslad said:
Well, answering your "quick" query, quicker is a comparative verb. For instance, 'a BMW is quicker than a TVR'. However it would be wrong to say 'Paul started to drive quicker'; it should be 'Paul started to drive more quickly.' However people use the word interchangeably with faster and the same grammatical rules do not apply.


Which BMW and which TVR wuld that be then? I've got a BMW 330 and TVR Griff and I can categorically confirm that the TVR is much quicker.

MilnerR

8,273 posts

287 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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The description of something being more or less unique drives me insane. How can you quantify an absolute. Either it is unique or it isn't!!

lotuslad

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283 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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srebbe64 said:
Nowadays many people would rather use five words than two - it's stupid.


Indeed. There seems to be a trend, probably encouraged by football commentators, of trying to aggrandise speech with verbal accessories such as "To be honest", "In terms of" or "At the end of the day". It's a trend I find annoying, but it seems to be escalating

lotuslad

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283 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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srebbe64 said:

lotuslad said:
Well, answering your "quick" query, quicker is a comparative verb. For instance, 'a BMW is quicker than a TVR'. However it would be wrong to say 'Paul started to drive quicker'; it should be 'Paul started to drive more quickly.' However people use the word interchangeably with faster and the same grammatical rules do not apply.



Which BMW and which TVR wuld that be then? I've got a BMW 330 and TVR Griff and I can categorically confirm that the TVR is much quicker.


You probably just enjoy driving more quickly in the Griff.

srebbe64

13,021 posts

266 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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lotuslad said:

srebbe64 said:


lotuslad said:
Well, answering your "quick" query, quicker is a comparative verb. For instance, 'a BMW is quicker than a TVR'. However it would be wrong to say 'Paul started to drive quicker'; it should be 'Paul started to drive more quickly.' However people use the word interchangeably with faster and the same grammatical rules do not apply.




Which BMW and which TVR wuld that be then? I've got a BMW 330 and TVR Griff and I can categorically confirm that the TVR is much quicker.



You probably just enjoy driving more quickly in the Griff.

Or maybe Paul's got a BMW M5 and a Wedge?

lotuslad

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283 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Or the TVR wouldn't start

TurboNelly

601 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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lotuslad said:
Or the TVR wouldn't start

Don't start, numbnuts

srebbe64

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266 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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TurboNelly said:

lotuslad said:
Or the TVR wouldn't start


Don't start, numbnuts


And if the TVR was towed by the BMW they'd both be going the same speed!

lotuslad

5,253 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Is that what you say to your car every morning?