Hoodie Ban Mall - ha ha ha
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/4561399.stm
Ha ha ha. Frankly. So the mall publicly announces its going to try and make it a nicer place to be - and, unsurprisingly, people show up.
I can see the hand-wringers spitting blood over it. But hey? You can't argue with the effect.
Cue malls banning "mall-rats" all over the country. They don't spend money and put off legit shoppers.
bbc said:
Visitor rise at 'hoodie' ban mall
Bluewater shopping centre enjoyed a sharp rise in visitor numbers on the first weekend since it banned youths wearing hooded tops and baseball caps.
Some 23% more people visited the Kent mall last weekend than during the same weekend in 2004.
Managers introduced a code of conduct on 11 May aimed at clamping down on anti-social behaviour at the complex. It also outlawed swearing.
Prime Minister Tony Blair later expressed support for the move.
Intimidating behaviour by groups or individuals, anti-social behaviour including swearing, and wearing clothing which deliberately obscures the face such as hooded tops and baseball caps, have all been banned.
The new rules also prohibit smoking, leafleting, or canvassing on site.
'Remarkable'
On BBC Radio 4's Today programme, correspondent Nick Cosgrove said the rise in visitor numbers was "all the more remarkable considering the extremely tough trading environment on the high street".
"Given [the ban's] almost overnight impact on attendance, other shopping centres across the UK will be taking a greater interest in making a similar move," he added.
A spokesman for Bluewater admitted the hoodie ban had received an "extraordinary" amount of publicity but this would not, on its own, necessarily account for the increased trade.
"Footfall is notoriously fickle and affected by a variety of factors including weather, the economic climate and marketing activities," he said.
The Children's Society charity branded Bluewater's ban "blatant discrimination based on stereotypes and prejudices", and said it infringes young people's rights.
But Bluewater insisted its code of conduct was not "children-
Ha ha ha. Frankly. So the mall publicly announces its going to try and make it a nicer place to be - and, unsurprisingly, people show up.
I can see the hand-wringers spitting blood over it. But hey? You can't argue with the effect.
Cue malls banning "mall-rats" all over the country. They don't spend money and put off legit shoppers.
there was a programme on about this a few days ago with the usual do-good idiots saying how it was victimisation and all that.
is it "victimisation" that bikers are not allowed to wear crash helmets in banks? No its security. Same deal here. Hoodies hide your face from CCTV which is one main reason why criminal types wear 'em, next up you have a bunch of kids hanging around acting like thugs because they think they are hard cases...
Easy, don't want to be "victimised" don't act like a chav thug you stupid little scrotes.
I'm pleased its worked for Bluewater, I hope other shopping centres will take note.
is it "victimisation" that bikers are not allowed to wear crash helmets in banks? No its security. Same deal here. Hoodies hide your face from CCTV which is one main reason why criminal types wear 'em, next up you have a bunch of kids hanging around acting like thugs because they think they are hard cases...
Easy, don't want to be "victimised" don't act like a chav thug you stupid little scrotes.
I'm pleased its worked for Bluewater, I hope other shopping centres will take note.
Quite suprised B'Liar didn't come out with this pap.
The Children's Society said:
The Children's Society charity branded Bluewater's ban "blatant discrimination based on stereotypes and prejudices", and said it infringes young people's rights.
Yep.
And your point is?
Hopefully they will follow suit with fat people, ugly people, poor people, people who are too big, people who are too small, people who walk too slowly, people with more than one middle name and anyone I don't like the look of.
just kidding
Neil_H said:
Hopefully they will follow suit with fat people, ugly people, poor people, people who are too big, people who are too small, people who walk too slowly, people with more than one middle name and anyone I don't like the look of.
damn straight. i think they should have a test before you're allowed to enter consisting of the following:
1. you need make a signal before stopping abruptly to look in a window.
2. you must signal if you want to change direction.
3. lines should be laid creating lanes. you should deviate from the lanes only when following the proper proceedure - "look behind, signal, manouvure".
4. you should be able to demonstrate the ability to walk at a set rate and not deviate from the speed - unless of course you give the proper signage.
5. on every intersection there should be traffic lights, organising the people more efficiently. each junction should have a red light camera - just incase any steps out of line.
it should be called the Shopping Mall Proficiency Test. anyone who gets the Advanced Shopping Mall Proficiency qualification can also walk fast. Mall cops should have a special qualification called a Class 1 Running License.
The Children's Society said:
The Children's Society charity branded Bluewater's ban "blatant discrimination based on stereotypes and prejudices", and said it infringes young people's rights.
Exactly what rights are "young people" supposed to have? Should a 14 year old trainee chav have the "right" to hang around a shopping mall where they have no intention of doing any shopping? What about my right to be able to go shopping without tripping over the little bastards every five minutes?
For the information of the the Children's Society:
Shopping malls are for SHOPPING. Not for hanging around and generally loitering with intent to cause mischief. If Children feel that their rights are being infringed by not being allowed to wear hoodies whilst loitering, they can feel absolutely free to
OFF SOMEWHERE ELSE.JagLover said:
With the announcement of this policy Bluewater are trying to make themselves an oasis of civilisation in the midst of the barbarian hordes, is it surprising that decent people are now more attracted to the place?.
Great news and one in the eye for all the people moaning about discrimination of hoods and caps..... Hopefully, it'll push all the Chavs back into Chatham.....
It's interesting to hear people talking about disaffected youths, hanging around Malls, as there's nothing else to do. What a load of crap. Go and find a library and read a book, or why not get involved in something constructive? Why not play sports? In fact, why not do something other than hang around a public area, acting like an animal?
Davel said:
Personally, I'd be happy if men were banned from most shops except car and bike dealers and related shops.
I f***in hate shopping!
I'd be delighted to stay at home or look after the kids instead.
Dont forget HMV, Games shops etc.
Otherwise your plan is a good one and has serious merit.
"Sorry honey, I cant wander through endless shops while you decide whether or not you like a series of idetical looking tops, its banned. I'll be in starbucks with a car mag..."
Personally, stuff like this pisses me right off...
I wear hooded jumpers, I've got a few of them. I've always been the baggy jeans baggy jumpers type when it comes to dress sense. So now I'm not allowed to use this shopping centre because I choose to wear a particular type of jumper?
I wear hooded jumpers, I've got a few of them. I've always been the baggy jeans baggy jumpers type when it comes to dress sense. So now I'm not allowed to use this shopping centre because I choose to wear a particular type of jumper?
timbob said:
Personally, stuff like this pisses me right off...
I wear hooded jumpers, I've got a few of them. I've always been the baggy jeans baggy jumpers type when it comes to dress sense. So now I'm not allowed to use this shopping centre because I choose to wear a particular type of jumper?
Take the hood down when you are in indoors, otherwise, I am sorry to say, you are a Chav.
Well, obviously - I only ever use the hood if it's cold or raining anyway.
If they're only banning actually having the hood up indoors, then that's cool.... I dread to think what I'd say to a security guard though if he came up to me (hood down) and told me to take my jumper off or leave as it had a hood...
If they're only banning actually having the hood up indoors, then that's cool.... I dread to think what I'd say to a security guard though if he came up to me (hood down) and told me to take my jumper off or leave as it had a hood...
timbob said:
Personally, stuff like this pisses me right off...
I wear hooded jumpers, I've got a few of them. I've always been the baggy jeans baggy jumpers type when it comes to dress sense. So now I'm not allowed to use this shopping centre because I choose to wear a particular type of jumper?
Yes, mate. You know - when I used to work for a big consultancy I used to wear a suit every day. Casual clothes of any kind were banned.
Society gets along because we conform to reasonable rules.
If you want to rebel you have to do it on your own turf.
I now own a software Company and go to work in Short and a T-shirt if I damn well please - but when I see the customers I still wear a suit because they like it!
You're studying a Jazz degree. I take it you wish to be a performer. You'll soon find that what you choose to wear whilst performing is greatly affected by peer pressure. This is no different.
Jaglover was being a bit harsh - but, really, take the hood down or wear a different shirt. Not hard is it?
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