Cavepeople and Chords & stuff
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Ever wondered what used to happen?
You know, in the olden days, caveman days, ice-age etc.
I was having a look at my wifes bulbous stomach today (she's pregnant, not a fat-so) and it got me wondering what happened years ago.
Say, for example, when we were monkey-like or caveman-esque, what the hell did we do when a baby was born. Today, all is taken care of by trained doctors, widwives and nurses. What happened in the caves?
It must have been bizarre. Assuming they had no proper languages, there must have been some strange sequence that they had to go through.
Would they have all gathered round, grunting and pointing, pulling and pushing? Did the baby get spun round, post birth, in order for the chord to be stressed, thus causing it to snap or detatch?
This may seem an odd post due to Rioja but it does baffle me.
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You know, in the olden days, caveman days, ice-age etc.
I was having a look at my wifes bulbous stomach today (she's pregnant, not a fat-so) and it got me wondering what happened years ago.
Say, for example, when we were monkey-like or caveman-esque, what the hell did we do when a baby was born. Today, all is taken care of by trained doctors, widwives and nurses. What happened in the caves?
It must have been bizarre. Assuming they had no proper languages, there must have been some strange sequence that they had to go through.
Would they have all gathered round, grunting and pointing, pulling and pushing? Did the baby get spun round, post birth, in order for the chord to be stressed, thus causing it to snap or detatch?
This may seem an odd post due to Rioja but it does baffle me.
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And what happened when a caveman had toothache..
Did they just get the nearest rock and smash it out....
Actually, I asked my dentist this, on my last visit, and she said probably it would have gone badly septic, gone into the bloodsteam and they would eventually have died from it........
Did they just get the nearest rock and smash it out....
Actually, I asked my dentist this, on my last visit, and she said probably it would have gone badly septic, gone into the bloodsteam and they would eventually have died from it........
Wacky Racer said:
And what happened when a caveman had toothache..
Did they just get the nearest rock and smash it out....
All this stuff fascinates me.
They say we are undeveloped in our own way and in relation to the future. I say thats bollox. Compared to then, I thing we've sorted alot of issues out.
In years to come, will they look back at our way of life now, and think we had to suffer alot?
los angeles said:
In Skelmersdale, the woman is expected to walk a distance, choose a suitable bush, go behind it, have her baby, cut the umbilical cord, clean the child and her, and not return until it is suckling - all without help or supervision. Nafinol Helf folk, they don't know how lucky they are, mate.
Thought so.I can answer this one! Just reading a book on bringing birth back to normality so it looks at the history of giving birth.
Through studying the behaviours of many tribes they think it was a natural thing to have women around if she wasn't alone (as do certain animals). Likely to have had the natural nesting instinct so would have built a private area with soft ferns and probably have birth standing up. The hip shape of such homosapians did make birth easier from that point!
Some tribes give birth in rivers or the sea.
Not too sure about the cord (not chord!) though. Most animals instinct is to tear it with their teeth but this could have lead to bleeding to death of the infant.
One breed of monkeys actually leaves their offsprint attached to the cord and placenta until it naturally drops off (as do some people nowadays, called lotus birth).
Through studying the behaviours of many tribes they think it was a natural thing to have women around if she wasn't alone (as do certain animals). Likely to have had the natural nesting instinct so would have built a private area with soft ferns and probably have birth standing up. The hip shape of such homosapians did make birth easier from that point!
Some tribes give birth in rivers or the sea.
Not too sure about the cord (not chord!) though. Most animals instinct is to tear it with their teeth but this could have lead to bleeding to death of the infant.
One breed of monkeys actually leaves their offsprint attached to the cord and placenta until it naturally drops off (as do some people nowadays, called lotus birth).
anonymous said:
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a lá that funny bloke's cookery programme, Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall, who helped some woman throw a dinner party for her friends. one of the courses was indeed, a fried up placenta. In garlic and herbs though, because it would have been disgusting otherwise.
Gee thanks!
los angeles said:
Is that true, Selmer? I presume it wasn't a human one; nevertheless, he needs treatment.
Yeah, I think the 'placenta' show was part of a series called 'Friends For Dinner'. The guy now runs a rural idyll where his hippyish (middle class, artisans) freinds now meet for medievil banquets and such. He regularly hob nobs with landed gentry in order to get cheap game or hare etc.
But at least he hasn't gone down the 'Jamie Oliver' media tart route.
groucho said:
Child birth, the most natural thing any species does. I assume a cave woman gave birth with minimal fuss and then went on with their daily business......Survival.
You mean she didn't spend 3 months choosing a pushchair, and the father didn't get 2 months off mammoth-hunting for paternity leave? How ever did they cope?
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