Digital Piano Midi questions
Digital Piano Midi questions
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UKBob

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16,277 posts

294 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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I know little about midi files and arranging them. After scouring the net for hours, I gather that excellent midi files do exist(?) which when played back on a modern piano (yamaha CVP 309GP) would sound incredible. Finding them is like looking for the proverbial needle in the haystack. Most midi files make my nice sounding piano... sound crap.

Where does one look? How does it work, exactly? Can I find files (guns and roses, november rain was something I had a snout for) which sound as good piano wise as they do with the backing tracks? If so where? Bit of a mine field out there, I dont have hours to spend surfing, getting bored looking with all the garbage out there to sift through :sleep:

help, anyone? :)

nervous

24,050 posts

259 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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do you think about anything other than pianos anymore Bobby?

UKBob

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16,277 posts

294 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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nervous said:
do you think about anything other than pianos anymore Bobby?
The odd smattering of smutty porn diverts my innocent mind away from the relatively clean investment of my time that is the piano.

[mello drama]Help Nerv, im lost in a world of midi files. Its hell kid, I need a rescue party[/mel..]

nervous

24,050 posts

259 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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im scrambling Nervous Rescue 6 now mate, should be with you within the week. as long as theres no weekends between now and then that is

thebluemonkey

1,296 posts

269 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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The back of Sound on Sound has adverts for that sort of thing, though I doubt they'd be cheap.

UKBob

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294 months

Wednesday 1st June 2005
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thebluemonkey said:
The back of Sound on Sound has adverts for that sort of thing, though I doubt they'd be cheap.
If quality midi files are available to buy, assumedly people have bought them. Theres a big market for them, so Ive read.

Surely with the advent of the inter-jiggerypokery-net thingy, Id be able to find out where/who hoardes the best midi files?

c c

8,052 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Your Yamaha should have the XG voice set on board. So try searching out XG midi files.

Also something like Cakewalk Home Studio is handy to edit midi files to your liking.

UKBob

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Thursday 2nd June 2005
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c c said:
Your Yamaha should have the XG voice set on board. So try searching out XG midi files.
Cheers, that might well be the droid I was looking for

Rob_F

4,153 posts

293 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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I did Music Tech at A level where we had to arrange several tracks as midi pieces as part of our second year coursework. Some people spent weeks searching for midi tracks on the net to attempt to cheat with but the teacher could tell instantly as they were all utter crap. I wouldn't waste your time looking for a good one. Get Cubase for the PC and get ready to lose yourself for a lifetime or two mastering it!

Rob.

UKBob

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Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Rob_F said:
I did Music Tech at A level where we had to arrange several tracks as midi pieces as part of our second year coursework. Some people spent weeks searching for midi tracks on the net to attempt to cheat with but the teacher could tell instantly as they were all utter crap. I wouldn't waste your time looking for a good one. Get Cubase for the PC and get ready to lose yourself for a lifetime or two mastering it!

Rob.
Good ones exist, you can buy em online. The market is big Im not sure yet who to ask or where to find them...

love machine

7,609 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Forget any digital shite, just press the black and white keys until you make beautiful music. My first recording on a (the first) digital piano (in the UK with MIDI) resulted in a sound engineer "knowing best" and ruining the whole recording. Hence why I refuse to play modern equipment. Microphones are where it's at. C'm on Bob, get those chords fat, get your fingers nimble and the music will speak for itself.

When I used to use the Hammond, explaining the whole Leslie cabinet, 4 microphones and where they go was always amusing...."Got enough microphones?"

UKBob

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Thursday 2nd June 2005
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washing machine said:
Forget any digital shite, just press the black and white keys until you make beautiful music... get your fingers clean with a good bio detergent and the music will speak for itself.

I would, but Ive only been playing a month as you know, and want to learn pieces which people usually only learn after years of playing. Im doing my best to work out the correct fingering, which is where the midi files (and the lights that light up) come in, and am making good progress Its nice to be able to jump ahead and enjoy more complex stuff when not practising scales etc But all the crap midi files on the net make finding the right ones difficult

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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The trouble with most download midi files is they don't have half the imformation needed to make then sound nice. I forget the exact encoding but I think the basic ones have a time and tone and very little else. A lot of them aren't written on or for stuff as sophisticatede as yours

You can either get a decent midi editor and add the good stuff yourself, but I would say the easiest way to do it would be to connect your piano to the pc and record the midi while someone decent plays the piano

You can then play back the midi through the piano to get decent sound, you can also edit the newly recorded midi files and see how they differ to your others

Try the recording forums on harmony-central