SERIOUS dilemma
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Beaconbouy

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321 posts

261 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Ok a girl of 8, I know of and have seen has been involved with social services for scratches all over her body, (reproted by school. They (family) say this is due to "fights with her brother", i believe otherwise. In the house is a man 21 same age as me who is staying with them, this apprent scratching has just recently started. During a normal conversation, the guy starts talking about how he "licked" her(he let that slip), he seemed rather giddy at the time as he wanted to make new friends in the country, and was VERY talkative. However now I think he knows that I know something is up, he seems ALOT more defensive now, and even seems more threatening, I think I'll cross the bastard and see if he cracks.

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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If you are sure, try social services. If not, keep clear - you may create a whole lot of trouble for the poor kid.

Failing that, get a couple of mates to go with you and scare the crap out of him. Obviously, do not touch him, just make him very aware that you know what is going on and that the consequences of more scratches will be dire.

silverback mike

11,293 posts

282 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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I think the girls welfare should be paramount. If he has stated that he has committed such acts then it is an extremely serious offence, which most probably will affect the girls life permanently.

The social services should deal with it correctly, and if any suspicion of these offences are suspected then they will be speaking to the police who will inform their child protection department.

If you speak to the male with baseball bat in hand he is unlikely to come clean, and may implicate you as an offender. This he may try to do to take the heat from him.

My advice - if you have any suspicion, which you have then speak to the police, who may already be liaising with the social services in relation to the matter. This maybe going on on a daily basis to the girl, and obviously as you have stated needs to stop.

Beaconbouy

Original Poster:

321 posts

261 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Well thanks, the problem is I don't think the Social Services have even thought about him yet. The girl seems unusually shy and retentive, she just isn't "RIGHT" as you would expect a 8 year old girl. She seems to love her "LITTLE" brother very much and he even seems to look up to her, A little boy of 5 contributing to all those scratches.

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Errrm, I withdraw my recommendation in deference to a professional far more experienced then I. But I couldn`t help thinking about those cases in the Scottish Isles where kids were dragged from their parents because of unsubstantiated allegations.

Beaconbouy

Original Poster:

321 posts

261 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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No, I don't mean baseball bats just a friendly chat over a cup of tea to coax something out of him.

>> Edited by Beaconbouy on Friday 10th June 06:45

glocko

1,813 posts

278 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Beaconbouy said:
Well thanks, the problem is I don't think the Social Services have even thought about him yet. The girl seems unusually shy and retentive, she just isn't "RIGHT" as you would expect a 8 year old girl. She seems to love her "LITTLE" brother very much and he even seems to look up to her, A little boy of 5 contributing to all those scratches.

I'm a social worker and before the inevitable burn-out worked in front line child protection.
You MUST contact the duty team of your local soc servs as soon as possible.
Tell them all you know and let them do the investigative work. They may have already had a referral from school, health visitor etc so your information could add weight to that.
The scratches could be a non accidental injury or even the girl self harming due to emotional upset.
With regards to the guy, if things are substantiated he will be removed from the home, indeed he may already be known to the local police sex offenders unit, these people tend to drift from victim to victim.
Good luck.

wolf1

3,099 posts

279 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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The girls well being and safety is a priority and obviously must be reported asap.

Beaconbouy said:

A little boy of 5 contributing to all those scratches.


You want to see my 4yr old fight with his older brother. Little darling doesn't hold back an inch and regulary elder brother has to beat a hasty tactical retreat (he's 13).

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

263 months

Friday 10th June 2005
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Any action against this guy, if he is abusing her, won't do the girl any favours.

Go to social services, the police, whatever - and tell them everything you know.