More ways to soak you...
More ways to soak you...
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james_j

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3,996 posts

284 months

Sunday 19th June 2005
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Labour’s true colours are emerging (yet again), with the news that they are looking at taking even more money from their citizens, this time more from the bereaved.

That weasel communist Blunkett, who has somehow wormed his way back into a job working for Bliar, is coming up with ever more inventive ways to soak thrifty families no doubt to pay for the expanding public sector and their other barmy socialist schemes (and the £30 billion plus and counting cost of the Iraq conflict).

After someone (or a couple), who of course have been paying for a house out of their taxed income, probably for most of their working life, die and leave it in their estate, it is currently the situation whereby the beneficiaries fork out 40% of the value of the estate of over £250,000 straight to the government. Pretty bad.

Now they are thinking of various ways they might start penalising even further these beneficiaries.

To quote Blunkett "...[i]If you live in London or the Southeast and you inherit a house from a relative the chances are, if that relative is in his seventies or eighties, there will be no mortgage on it. And give house prices in London and the Southeast the chances are it will be the equivalent of winning the lottery. That’s very different from someone who’s historically rented all their lives. Therefore, there will be a big differential and it will be about the capital assets that people have and not just their income. We need to put that into the equation, which is what I intend to do in the next few months[/i]..."

So folks, you thought it was worth working your guts out to pay for your house and pass it to your children? After all, you’ll have paid for it out of taxed income and there’ll be big inheritance tax on it as well, but at least it's nice to give the children something out of what's left.

It looks like there may be a new tax on the assumed rental value, maybe to reduce your pension entitlement. Whatever, it'll mean more tax to pay or a reduced pension. Surely, this will cause even more people to leave these shores for good.

Why not p155 it all up the wall, there’s no point saving.

...and the government are worried that people aren’t saving enough for their retirement! I wonder why! Are they completely bloody mad, what’s the point in being careful if you’re just going to be penalised by envious communists with a chip on their shoulder?

MrsRotty

637 posts

260 months

Sunday 19th June 2005
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So lets see all lottery winners taxed then, 'cos that's unfair on those that don't win...isn't it?

ing Blunkett! You choose whether to buy your own home or rent, and you choose to play the lottery. I know, lets tax choice... we don't like choice because some people might make better choices than others, and that's not fair!

Aaaaaargh!!!

Twincam16

27,647 posts

287 months

Sunday 19th June 2005
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And we all know the sort of perks Blunkett's children get don't we

When will politicians understand that 1. They are only representative of themselves, and 2. People actively refuse to be bracketed.

kenny320

1,598 posts

274 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Does that mean we should all quit our jobs, live on benefits and do nothing useful for the rest of our lives?

hustlebabe

790 posts

255 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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kenny320 said:
Does that mean we should all quit our jobs, live on benefits and do nothing useful for the rest of our lives?


Yippee

kenny320

1,598 posts

274 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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hustlebabe said:

kenny320 said:
Does that mean we should all quit our jobs, live on benefits and do nothing useful for the rest of our lives?



Yippee


Mind you, I could now make some interesting "business cases" to el padre

cortinaman

3,230 posts

282 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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dont worry peeps,if i ever see him trying to cross the road i will happily stand beside him and make 'beeping' noises as soon as the first bus or artic comes along.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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So when I retire I'm selling the house and buying a smaller one in a less expensive area. When the money runs out I'm going to sell the cheaper house and rent.

There's a jolly good chance I'll pop off before the money runs out for the second time. If it doesn't? I'll let the State look after me.

After all - I'm paying an exorbitant amount of tax now...hope to get some back later.

[yoda]
Get from me not a penny they will.
[/yoda]

Jaglover

46,750 posts

264 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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The more Labour are in power the more thier true instincts are revealed.

They are the party of the smnall minded and envious and wish to drag everyone else down to their level.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Is Blunkett playing at being Chancellor now?

Witchfinder

6,388 posts

281 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Jaglover said:
They are the party of the smnall minded and envious and wish to drag everyone else down to their level.

It's not their level though. They're all living the fat-cat life on the taxpayers' backs. They want to drag everyone down to the level below them, and keep 'em there.

stumartin

1,706 posts

266 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Witchfinder said:
It's not their level though. They're all living the fat-cat life on the taxpayers' backs. They want to drag everyone down to the level below them, and keep 'em there.


Well said, and there's a huge lacuna between the two. Can anyone remember if Tony gave any justification for bringing Blunderkett back into the Cabinet? The gall of these people is overwhelming.

simpo two

92,708 posts

294 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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stumartin said:
Can anyone remember if Tony gave any justification for bringing Blunderkett back into the Cabinet?

I guess the dog was just following old smells.

Tuna

19,930 posts

313 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Remeber folks - if you don't let them know your feelings, your local MPs will ignore stuff like this. It doesn't matter whos side they're on, they're meant to represent you, and these days if you don't make a fuss then you don't count. www.writetothem.com/

Of course, this is squarely aimed at middle England - MPs, lawers and the truly rich will manage to avoid such penalties through loopholes managed by their accountants. Everyone else gets screwed.

Maybe I'm missing the point, but what is actually wrong with coming into some money? Why does Blunkett feel that this is something that has to be 'fixed'? Is the budget so close to collapse that they have to mither bereaving families for a few more pounds?

mondeoman

11,430 posts

295 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Tuna said:
Is the budget so close to collapse that they have to mither bereaving families for a few more pounds?


Simple Answer - yes
Complex Answer - YES

r988

7,495 posts

258 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Also dont smoke or eat unhealthily ot speed or put your life in danger in anyway in case you die too soon, wouldn't want you missing out on all those taxes the govt needs. Oh and by the way dont live too long or you will be a burden on everyone else.

Also have lots of kids its good for the economy, except that the world is overpopulated and their wont be enough resources to go round as we have squandered them all, oh and dont let those natsy immigrants in, there isn't enough room on this tiny island for them.

james_j

Original Poster:

3,996 posts

284 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Don said:
So when I retire I'm selling the house and buying a smaller one in a less expensive area. When the money runs out I'm going to sell the cheaper house and rent.

There's a jolly good chance I'll pop off before the money runs out for the second time. If it doesn't? I'll let the State look after me.

After all - I'm paying an exorbitant amount of tax now...hope to get some back later.

[yoda]
Get from me not a penny they will.
[/yoda]


That seems like a damn good idea.

LRdriver II

1,936 posts

278 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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An "assumed rental value tax" has existed since the early 70's in Denmark. It is an envy tax that was instigated by the socialist government at the time. "Thou shalt not think you are better than anybody else..therfore you WILL be cut down to size"

cotty

42,224 posts

313 months

Monday 20th June 2005
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Typical with so many people finding it difficult to get on the housing ladder when they get left a house they will have to sell it to give a chunk to the govenment.