Dear Mr Lentilist
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lady topaz

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3,855 posts

283 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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I am full of admiration for your stand against poverty in the third world, so much so that you have the fortitude to have the courage of your convictions to actually get off your backside and head to Scotland to share your beliefs in a peaceful manner. I am humble cos whilst supporting your stand I really dont do too much to make a difference.
Hang on, is that someones business you are trashing??
Is that someones car you are wrecking??
Do you know these people? do you have a personal grudge. Do you have any idea how your actions affect normal people who probably struggled to have what they do now?
Of course you dont. Just as you probably haven't the slightest idea why you are wandering around rural Scotland other than to satisfy your own need to destroy anything you can only dream of having in your own twisted jealous mind.
You dont care that the cause you pretend to support will be lost to the mass media. Any message is gone. You will only be remembered as one of a mob of dissidents (sp) intent on mayhem.
You and your kind will only encourage the out-lawing of the right to protest.
When you return home you will no doubt be proud of your achievements.
Perhaps the owners of the property you have destroyed should bill Geldoff for inciting you. Maybe not, you after all are responsible for your own actions.
Yet again peaceful protest will be overshadowed by the pond scum which infiltrate every area of our society

paddy27

1,745 posts

263 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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Well said, yet again a good idea runined by muppets looking for a fight!!

minimax

11,985 posts

285 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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I found it interesting that the majority of the 'protestors' looked nothing like the hippies who were ranting about their right to protest, they looked more like the local neds enjoying a riot

OctaneBooster

326 posts

265 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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I'm not sure the people you refer to are making a stand against poverty, or that they even know what they do stand for or against. A question of "what have you got?" maybe.
While there are no doubt many people who will make their views public by way of peaceful protest, they don't generally make good media material, so our TV screens get filled with the antics of a tiny minority of anarchist idiots who were it not for G8 would have found something else to be anti as they have done in the past (road building, poll tax etc.) and no doubt will continue to do so in the future.
Many people who hold views that on this forum might be described as "Lentilist" don't fall into the above camp at all, so please don't tar them with the same brush. My own views couldn't be further removed from many of them, but I thank God I live in a country where we can all make a stand no matter what our opinion without fear of a fateful knock on the door in the middle of the night.
Many people living in the countries that are the focus of the G8 summit don't have that luxury.

Mannginger

10,263 posts

286 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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Valid, valuable protest statement:



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Point well made Ms Topaz!

Phil

Edited because the swear filters are on holiday!

>> Edited by Mannginger on Wednesday 6th July 21:40

Clio172

79 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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who th e are these people, they aint nobody special just a bunch of hippies, get out the car and smack the out of them.

pesty

42,655 posts

285 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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And he knows that the owner of that car isnt there to protest along with them how exactly?

apache

39,731 posts

313 months

Wednesday 6th July 2005
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These creeps still use trains, buses and cars to get there, they will still claim their Gyros to buy hoodies and trainers. They also get paid by god knows who to cause mayhem, they still use money like the rest of us.
I'd really like to be a copper up there kneeling in a politically incorrect manner on the throat of one or two of them or jabbing the edge of my riot shield in the face of an unwashed scrounging whinger

kenny chim 4

1,604 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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It's interesting that the 'Wombles' and the other dedicated "anarchist" groups just jump from one event to another- and treat it as a full time job. Ergo, you and I fund them.

Lest we forget the May Day ruination of Churchill's statue in Westminster a couple of years ago and the bespoilment of the Cenotaph,
Yet , when convicted, we find these individuals are the spawn of upper middle class company directors et al.

Psychologicaly, many of them are railing against their parents- yet we bear the brunt financialy until they grow out of it. .

Fact wise- I defy anyone to differ..

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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OctaneBooster said:
I thank God I live in a country where we can all make a stand no matter what our opinion without fear of a fateful knock on the door in the middle of the night....


I don't think you quite understand the workings of the European Arrest Warrant that our worthy leaders signed up to recently......

seafarer

1,278 posts

282 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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Very well spoken, LadyTopaz.

Seems like these activists are always screaming about their favorite part of the problem ("it's so unfair that there are poor people" ) without considering all the other real phenomena and ramifications upon which their narrow-minded perspectives and over-simplified solutions depend for success. Namely, the very real considerations of economics, science, and justice. There is a solution, but it does not involve the terrorism of violence toward, and stealing from, the hard working.

I'm in favor of protecting the environment and doing something to break the cycle of poverty, but doing that depends on an accurate assessment of the causes and effects of human behavior, industry and science, economics and acting accordingly, without hysteria. Without taking these into consideration, they are forcing a vigilante agenda that discourages competition and fairness, and will force us into the dark ages.

I wouldn't even call myself an environmentalist if I thought it would mean that I am irrational and uninformed as are these petulant miscreants.

>> Edited by seafarer on Thursday 7th July 01:09

Witchfinder

6,388 posts

281 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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People who are rioting should be shot.

I've no problem with marching or peaceful protesting. In fact, I feel like a bit of my own protesting against this bastard government. However, if you're chucking rocks at the fuzz, and smashing up people's houses and cars, then you deserve to be tear gassed, clubbed or plugged.

TVR_Dreamer

17 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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Witchfinder said:
People who are rioting should be shot.

I've no problem with marching or peaceful protesting. In fact, I feel like a bit of my own protesting against this bastard government. However, if you're chucking rocks at the fuzz, and smashing up people's houses and cars, then you deserve to be tear gassed, clubbed or plugged.
100% agree. The true message of any demonstration is lost when it becomes a riot.

JMGS4

8,930 posts

299 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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TVR_Dreamer said:

Witchfinder said:
People who are rioting should be shot.

I've no problem with marching or peaceful protesting. In fact, I feel like a bit of my own protesting against this bastard government. However, if you're chucking rocks at the fuzz, and smashing up people's houses and cars, then you deserve to be tear gassed, clubbed or plugged.

100% agree. The true message of any demonstration is lost when it becomes a riot.


AND don't let us forget that these lazy good-for-nothing, socialist, long haired, unwashed, lice ridden, drugtaking scrotes are living at our cost and expense! Bring back the birch!!!!

silversun

4,373 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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It's a shame that our right to peaceful protest has been eroded so badly that the only people who protest are the ones that have nothing to lose.

scruffy

3,757 posts

290 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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JMGS4 said:
long haired, drugtaking



STOP I'm really taking offence at the use of the words long haired and drugtaking.

What is your problem you little scrote?

JMGS4

8,930 posts

299 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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HEy Scruff!! I was applying ALL the prerogatives which obviously doesn't apply to you then????? take a pill!!!

scruffy

3,757 posts

290 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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gets back in his caravan

JMGS4

8,930 posts

299 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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scruffy said:

gets back in his caravan


Hows things old chap?, last saw you when you were wearing a dress!!!

silversun

4,373 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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OctaneBooster said:
Many people who hold views that on this forum might be described as "Lentilist" don't fall into the above camp at all, so please don't tar them with the same brush.


Agree. I've noticed that the term lentilist (with various spellings) is used on this site as an umbrella term for anyone non-right-wing but that's hardly the same as the anarchist vandals who protest just so they can have a riot.