Flying Lessons
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miniandy

Original Poster:

1,512 posts

266 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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Hello gents,

I have some flying lessons to take and I've never flown before, so I would like to know where the best place to take my lessons (best for views/scenery) in Scotland would be. I'm central, and had thought about Inverness. The lessons are about an hour. Any advice appreciated! Cheers :D

KingRichard

10,146 posts

261 months

Thursday 7th July 2005
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miniandy said:
Hello gents,

I have some flying lessons to take and I've never flown before, so I would like to know where the best place to take my lessons (best for views/scenery) in Scotland would be. I'm central, and had thought about Inverness. The lessons are about an hour. Any advice appreciated! Cheers


If you think you'll have time to look at the scenery think again... learn to fly, then look out the window

Lots of stuff to concentrate on at once... I do my PPL at Rochester Airport (when I can afford it)

Maybe you could book up a PPL course in the U.S, think you can get it for about £3-4k which will save you a few grand even if you do it in minimum hours

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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miniandy said:


I have some flying lessons to take and I've never flown before....Any advice appreciated! Cheers


(a) You're supposed to do it in an aeroplane......

(b) Don't listen to pigeon.......

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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To gain a PPL in Florida for £2795 - www.flyoba.com/

To go flying and look out of the window - Gliding from Aboyne

tombaron

818 posts

268 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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I learned to fly powered a/c with Tayside Aviation. Schools at Dundee (where I went), Perth and Glenrothes. VERY good flying school, I travelled from Cheshire!!

Clio172

79 posts

256 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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I think in light of recent events we should be cautious of handing out info on flying lessons.

john75

5,303 posts

276 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Clio172 said:
I think in light of recent events we should be cautious of handing out info on flying lessons.


Interesting point buts lets not get paranoid.

towman

14,938 posts

268 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Clio172 said:
I think in light of recent events we should be cautious of handing out info on flying lessons.


Why? Do we also stop giving out tube and bus timetables? FFS tragic losses yesterday and 9/11, but life goes on for the rest of us.

john75

5,303 posts

276 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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towman said:

Clio172 said:
I think in light of recent events we should be cautious of handing out info on flying lessons.



Why? Do we also stop giving out tube and bus timetables? FFS tragic losses yesterday and 9/11, but life goes on for the rest of us.


Well said Towman life must go on as normal today otherwise Bin Laden's boys have beaten us.

miniandy

Original Poster:

1,512 posts

266 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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KingRichard said:

If you think you'll have time to look at the scenery think again... learn to fly, then look out the window


ok fair enough! i may aswell fly from cumbernauld! gliding could be fun from Aboyne - might have a look into that.

Can you do lessons in US then come back to UK and it still has the same value?

Extra 300 Driver

5,282 posts

275 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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miniandy said:

KingRichard said:

If you think you'll have time to look at the scenery think again... learn to fly, then look out the window



ok fair enough! i may aswell fly from cumbernauld! gliding could be fun from Aboyne - might have a look into that.

Can you do lessons in US then come back to UK and it still has the same value?



You will have an FAA PPL which you will need to change to a UK JAR PPL, although saying that there are a few places in the states that do JAR PPL's but when you do the maths you dont save much. I though about going to the states years ago but I was told its a good idea to learn in the country that you want to fly in.

Flying is great fun when you are at PPL level. You will first only be able to fly VFR, Visual Flight Rules, then when you have done a bit of flying you can do your instrument rating.

VFR basicly means you just flying looking out of the window, but IFR you can fly at night and in cloud.

Enjoy your flight, its great fun.

Smart roadster

769 posts

255 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Hi

You can do a UK PPL in the states and that is valid over here, or you can doa US PPL and have to convert it to a JAR PPL on you're return. Before you go off to the states take a trial lesson here just to make sure you like it.
Just buy a copy of Flyer or pilot to check out flying schools.
Also in the UK there is the NPPL with some restrictions but a less stringent medical requirement.
Also in the states you won't encounter the sort of weather you get in the UK and I am told that the radio procedures are totally different.
Most of have fun it's a great hobby.

eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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miniandy said:
Hello gents,

I have some flying lessons to take and I've never flown before, so I would like to know where the best place to take my lessons (best for views/scenery) in Scotland would be. I'm central, and had thought about Inverness. The lessons are about an hour. Any advice appreciated! Cheers


If you're serious about getting a PPL, then you
probably want to be more interested in the proximity,
cost and reputation if the school than the scenery -
when you're learning, keeping the blue/grey at the top
of the windscreen, and the green/brown at the bottom,
is enough of a challenge.

For advice of specific schools north of the border,
you may want to try the "Private Flying" forum
on www.pprune.org or the forums at www.flyer.co.uk



Clio172

79 posts

256 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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john75 said:

Clio172 said:
I think in light of recent events we should be cautious of handing out info on flying lessons.



Interesting point buts lets not get paranoid.


KingRichard

10,146 posts

261 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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eharding said:
when you're learning, keeping the blue/grey at the top
of the windscreen, and the green/brown at the bottom,
is enough of a challenge.




Find a school with a cool aircraft too, I fly a Diamond Air DA-40

ok, ok so its a Diesel!! but its great to fly

obiwonkeyblokey

5,400 posts

269 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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wheres that then, im fed up of pipers and the like

KingRichard

10,146 posts

261 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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obiwonkeyblokey said:
wheres that then, im fed up of pipers and the like


I fly from Rochester Airport with CabAir. Top guys too, although my face is a rare sight cos I'm so poor now

tombaron

818 posts

268 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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KingRichard said:

eharding said:
when you're learning, keeping the blue/grey at the top
of the windscreen, and the green/brown at the bottom,
is enough of a challenge.





Find a school with a cool aircraft too, I fly a Diamond Air DA-40

ok, ok so its a Diesel!! but its great to fly



Tayside Aviation have DA-20s (two seat verion) as well as a whole host of other stuff.

Diesel is te fuel of the future for a/c btw.

tombaron

818 posts

268 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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Extra 300 Driver said:


VFR basicly means you just flying looking out of the window, but IFR you can fly at night and in cloud.

Enjoy your flight, its great fun.


[panickity mode]

Flying at night doesn't necessary mean you're flying in IMC conditions. You can fly at night by VFR as long as you hold a night rating.

[/panickity mode]

eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Friday 8th July 2005
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tombaron said:

Extra 300 Driver said:


VFR basicly means you just flying looking out of the window, but IFR you can fly at night and in cloud.

Enjoy your flight, its great fun.



[panickity mode]

Flying at night doesn't necessary mean you're flying in IMC conditions. You can fly at night by VFR as long as you hold a night rating.

[/panickity mode]



pernickety
A adjective
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characterized by excessive precision and ttention to trivial details

...there is no longer any such thing as a Night Rating - you'll be wanting a Night Qualification....as distinct to the IMC Rating.

Oh, and do the CAA give you a discount on the
paperwork to have both amended to your PPL at the
same time? - do they cobblers......in the case of
an NQ, it's £70 to remove 3 words from the
license.