Probably a stupid question!
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lady topaz

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3,855 posts

283 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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I was watching the news last eve where they were showing the crane in place to lift the bombed train carriage. How is this achieved? Surely the train is quite a way down underground. Is it pulled along to where it goes overground? Do they dig down?
Am I missing the obvious?

PhillVR6

3,785 posts

289 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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There are various places here there are large holes above the tunnel (a bit like a big chimney) where the trains can be lifted from. I think some of these also have a fixed crane there aswell.

Phill

MKGriff

719 posts

310 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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That's a good question and I don't know the answer. Would assume that they dragged it out into the open, rather than destroy an age old tunnel roof.

Whilst on the subject of cranes though (sorry to hijack your thread), does anyone know how they erect and extend tower cranes?

shadowninja

80,055 posts

311 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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I wondered that. Also if they put it on a 'flat bed' train, how would it clear the tunnel ceilings?

telecat

8,528 posts

270 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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Tower cranes start with the Crane "cross" and a set of extendable legs. These legs are extended and a tower section put in underneath. Repeat until the "Cross" is at desired height.

PhillVR6

3,785 posts

289 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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shadowninja said:
I wondered that. Also if they put it on a 'flat bed' train, how would it clear the tunnel ceilings?


I think the trains only just about fit in the tunnels as they are.

Phill

rustybin

1,769 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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It was shunted into Edgware road (just East of the platforms) where there is open access from adjacent LUL property to erect the crane. Not an easy lift though as although the carriage is only 20 tonne, the reach meant that a crane capable of lifting 500 tonne was required. Getting a decent load bearing surface also required five disused basements to be filled with concrete.

rustybin

1,769 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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PhillVR6 said:

shadowninja said:
I wondered that. Also if they put it on a 'flat bed' train, how would it clear the tunnel ceilings?



I think the trains only just about fit in the tunnels as they are.

Phill
Derailed trains are always re-railed in order to move them. As you say the clearance to the tunnel can be as little as 50mm or less in exceptional circumstances.

vetteheadracer

8,273 posts

282 months

Wednesday 20th July 2005
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If it was Edgeware Road the station is above ground (actually it's in a big hole). The train was just entering the station when the bomb went off so it safe to assume the carriage was close to platform and therefore could be moved there to be extracted.