Violent Crime doubles under Labour
Violent Crime doubles under Labour
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JagLover

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46,756 posts

264 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Violent crime recorded by police has doubled since 1998.

In 2004-05 there were 1,185,702 offences of violent crime.

The sharpest increase is in injuries caused by low-level thuggery.

Crime as a whole is falling from 5.93 million offences to 2003/04 to 5.56 million.

Given the rise in violent offences it seems that crimes to acquire property are being replaced by crimes committed simply for the sake of it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/21/ncrime21.xml

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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the response to this will be to redefine the word "violent" to reduce it in future years.

nuclearsquash

1,329 posts

291 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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some labour bint on the BBC this morning said something along the lines of "well it depends how you define violent, and violent crime that aren't mugging or robbery aren't actually important, so it's not as bad as it looks". I have ad-libbed that slightly, but it was the jist of it!

mechsympathy

58,642 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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tinman0 said:
the response to this will be to redefine the word "violent" to reduce it in future years.


The government lackey on the beeb this morning was arguing that very few people actually get hurt (it's just more people are going to the police), so it doesn't matter

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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tinman0 said:
the response to this will be to redefine the word "violent" to reduce it in future years.


Or move the start date back to get a lower average...

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Apparently 80% of violent crimes don't involve any physical violence.

Governments are hoist by their own petard in these circumstances. On the one hand, they want to tell us how dangerous society is so they can push through repressive legislation to "keep us in our places" but, on the other hand, bad statistics reflect badly on their policies.

titiany

2,122 posts

261 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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More benefits = more violent crime. People can afford to go out, get drunk on taxpayers money, and cause havoc.

That's my simplistic theory anyway.

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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The solution has already been presented by Bleary Hazel, this morning.

The government are to define alcohol disorder zones. The aim is to be able to single out the problem makers and focus the efforts of the police on them. That's what Blears said.

It's a bit like the "global database of terrorists" initiative. You'd have thought they'd have done it already.

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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[quote=dilbert
The government are to define alcohol disorder zones.[/quote]

you mean - like pubs? the bit in front of the bar is a high risk area?

yertis

19,712 posts

295 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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titiany said:
More benefits = more violent crime. People can afford to go out, get drunk on taxpayers money, and cause havoc.

That's my simplistic theory anyway.


And it's a very good one - entirely valid. If the "unemployed" were forced to work reparing roads and rebuilding the railways (as they will be when I seize the reins of power) they won't have the energy to get pissed.

Also all TV will be banned so they get outside and tidy up their gardens, the lazy sods.

Le TVR

3,097 posts

280 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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tinman0 said:
the response to this will be to redefine the word "violent" to reduce it in future years.


I expect that "deferred pacifity" will be appearing soon....

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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tinman0 said:
[quote=dilbert
The government are to define alcohol disorder zones.


you mean - like pubs? the bit in front of the bar is a high risk area?[/quote]

Don't panic matey, I've heard that the government is going to spend 500 mil on a think tank to come up with a design for special sign, and a police partnership.

I believe the idea is to obfuscate the actual alcohol disorder zone, but to tax anyone wishing to fight within it.

wolves_wanderer

12,955 posts

266 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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Isn't it funny how when crime goes up it is becuase more is being reported, but when it goes down it is because of the triumphant policies of the government

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Thursday 21st July 2005
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In other words, don't believe any of it.

Everyone is peddling their own agendas.