Wheel Chair Access
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vetteheadracer

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8,273 posts

282 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Having spent the weekend with the outlaws, mother-out-law has leg in plaster at the moment and so is in a wheelchair.

I booked them into a hotel which advertises wheelchair access etc. turns out that reception is down two steps then up 6 to the rooms :banghead: They have an electric riser for each set of stairs.
Also disabled rooms are at very far end of corridor which is complete opposite to restuarant which is at other end of hotel and has no riser to get wheel chair up more steps. :banghead:

Also booked cinema to go and see WotW and guess what? Cinema has disabled access, but only for 3 of the 6 screns and WotW is up 2 flights of stairs :banghead:
So cancel tickets and have to go to another cinema which was excellent :) (UGC in Gloucester) disabled parking at the bottom of the ramp to the front door, no steps, a disabled toilet and gentle sloping floors into the screens.

Until you have to push a wheelchair or worse still be in one you don't realise how bad access is for so many places.

Lois

14,706 posts

281 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Been there done that when I was younger and had my leg in plaster. Don't realise just how many steps there are until you cant do them!
The people around you can make a difference. Had one lady exclaim that I had no legs! cheaky thing!

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Went to the cinema with a friend's father once who is chair-bound. Access was ok but you only get the choice of 2 spots to park the chair in. Fair enough in a way, as its right next to the exit, but it does mean an annoying viewing angle and a max of 2 wheelchairs per screening...

groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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The recent Disabled Discrimination Act (DDA) legislation was designed to stop this sort of thing, but ofcourse there is always the correct way to solve a problem and the bare minimum to pass some piece of legislation.

In reality, not all buildings can be converted to accommodate whelchairs properly and so should not advertise as such. However, DDA now insists that all buildings do 'comply'. And if your hotel complies with it, then promote it

A case of good idea, bad implememntation.

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Actually, the DDA doesn't actually require that access be provided but that an alternative must be offered if access isn't possible.

In the case of a hotel, they could probably cite room service as a viable option to accessing the dining room.

Cr4p, innit?

groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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pdV6 said:
Actually, the DDA doesn't actually require that access be provided but that an alternative must be offered if access isn't possible.

In the case of a hotel, they could probably cite room service as a viable option to accessing the dining room.

Cr4p, innit?


Agreed. But it means that they can say that they cater for wheelchairs, when infact, they don't.

pdV6

16,442 posts

290 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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groomi said:

Agreed. But it means that they can say that they cater for wheelchairs, when infact, they don't.

Absolutely.
Shocking piece of legislation.

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Can she not use crutches

Much easier to get around

planetdave

9,922 posts

282 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Gonna upset a few people here.

Humans being a bipedal lot it's a bit odd having to cater to all manner of different disabilities. And the conflicts! The bumps on the pavement, to warn the blind, play hell with wheelchairs. Who gets priority?

And what about the ruination of buildings in the name of access?

tin hat is now on...where did I put that hole?

vetteheadracer

Original Poster:

8,273 posts

282 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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She can walk a few steps at he moment, but her right knee is playing up due to walking with the pot on the left foot for so long.
The pot was supposed to be off weeks ago, but when it came off last time they discovered that the pin through the base of foot into the ankle was being rejected so she had to have the pin out and then the foot plastered up again

groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Another issue I have is that handwash basins in public toilets are at a terrible height. I understand that wheelchair users may struggle to reach up, but I have to bend down just slightly - just to the exact point where my back cries enough and I collapse in a heap over the basin.

At this rate, I'll be in a wheelchair and be grateful for the low basins eventually.

I don't know what the solution is, but I wish somebody would find it, rather than this half-hearted 'if it suits no-one, then it isn't discriminatory' approach.

PatHeald

8,058 posts

285 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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When I was at university, the local Pizzaland (remember them...?) had a disabled toilet at the bottom of a spiral staircase....

JonRB

80,039 posts

301 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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planetdave said:
Humans being a bipedal lot it's a bit odd having to cater to all manner of different disabilities. And the conflicts! The bumps on the pavement, to warn the blind, play hell with wheelchairs. Who gets priority?

And what about the ruination of buildings in the name of access?

tin hat is now on...where did I put that hole?

So are you saying that we shouldn't cater to the disabled?

My son sustained an injury recently that temporarily put him in a wheelchair. You certainly see a whole new world, although it isn't too dissimilar to having a child in a buggy to be honest - ie. a pain in the neck.

If you ever found yourself in a wheelchair, even temporarily, I can assure you that your attitude of "normal humans are bipedal so anyone who isn't" would change pretty quick.

>> Edited by JonRB on Monday 25th July 15:24

planetdave

9,922 posts

282 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Ah yes, a bite

My own personal bugbear...fighting my way through all the provisions for minorities and having to put up with other peoples problems be they wheelchairs/blindness/deafness/inability to control themslves/children. And as a taxpayer I have to contribute to all the schemes that are currently PC.

And now I have someone throwing a paddy in my direction because I'm not tolerant enough/dare to criticise what I see as excess. Sorry that you didn't get to post and get everyone to agree with you. Tough. Some of us don't expect the world to be 'fair' and on our side all the time.

JonRB

80,039 posts

301 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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Perhaps my post came across a little beligerantly and for that I apologise. However, my point remains - it would be ironic to suddenly become one of the minories that iritate you so much. Could happen to any of us - RTA, skiing accident, falling off a ladder - and suddenly finding yourself in a wheelchair cursing the lack of provisions and/or facilities instead of bemoaning the apparant surfeit of them.

planetdave

9,922 posts

282 months

Monday 25th July 2005
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To live is to suffer. I've said enough.