Teenagers and alcohol
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[quote=volvos70t5]Call me a prude but kids are only kids for a very short while - Why do they want to be knocking alcohol back at the age of 16? Why would adults actively condone this?
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I would do everything I could to keep my own kids away from the culture of alcohol that we have in this country. My extended family have issues with alcohol and I have seen first hand the destruction that it can cause when not used sensible. The trouble is, whenever are kids sensible with anything new?
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Rather than Thread-Jack I have taken this quote from another topic as it is a subject the interests me greatly.
From about the age of 11 onwards I was allowed small amounts of alcohol on the odd occasion. Birthday meals, Christmas, New Years Eve. And by small I mean a shot glass or two of wine, half of shandy, [small]Babycham [/small] :boxedin:
As I got older I was allowed more to drink but always in well supervised situations where adults were on hand to ensure matters didn’t get out of hand. All in all I think that teaching teenagers how to handle alcohol correctly is very important. They need to learn their limits in safety and to respect the effects it can have on them and those around them.
As it happens, when I was younger, it was those friends of mine that were never allowed alcohol at home that went ott when they were able to buy it for themselves, and who had no idea how much they could drink or how to pace themselves.
So I open the floor to the views of the massive…
[small] (I hope you don’t mind be moving your words and the slight edit to include only relevant info to this new topic Volvo :wavey: )
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I would do everything I could to keep my own kids away from the culture of alcohol that we have in this country. My extended family have issues with alcohol and I have seen first hand the destruction that it can cause when not used sensible. The trouble is, whenever are kids sensible with anything new?
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Rather than Thread-Jack I have taken this quote from another topic as it is a subject the interests me greatly.
From about the age of 11 onwards I was allowed small amounts of alcohol on the odd occasion. Birthday meals, Christmas, New Years Eve. And by small I mean a shot glass or two of wine, half of shandy, [small]Babycham [/small] :boxedin:
As I got older I was allowed more to drink but always in well supervised situations where adults were on hand to ensure matters didn’t get out of hand. All in all I think that teaching teenagers how to handle alcohol correctly is very important. They need to learn their limits in safety and to respect the effects it can have on them and those around them.
As it happens, when I was younger, it was those friends of mine that were never allowed alcohol at home that went ott when they were able to buy it for themselves, and who had no idea how much they could drink or how to pace themselves.
So I open the floor to the views of the massive…
[small] (I hope you don’t mind be moving your words and the slight edit to include only relevant info to this new topic Volvo :wavey: )
Rude-boy said:
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My experiences with alcohol while growing up were fairly similar to yours, and I think that is a healthy and sensible attitude to take, rather than going out on your 18th birthday and nearly killing yourself because you have no idea of your limits/ a sensible policy WRT drinking. I would also note that those cultures, such as France, which have a gradual introduction to alcohol as part of the process of growing up, don't have their city centres full of drunken violent 2@s every Friday and Saturday night.
Agree. It's much better for you to be in a controlling situation where the alcohol is being consumed openly in front of you than pushing them away to do it elsewhere.
Alcohol in moderation (or even slightly more than moderation
) isn't bad for you - in fact it's good for you, and teaching your children the 'sensible' way to drink makes sense to me. More problems seem to come about when they are told not to do something and decide to drink a bottle of vodka on a street corner out of view, or when they are dissuaded from drinking so fervently that the first time they go to Ibiza with their mates they feel they have to make the most of it.
Alcohol in moderation (or even slightly more than moderation
) isn't bad for you - in fact it's good for you, and teaching your children the 'sensible' way to drink makes sense to me. More problems seem to come about when they are told not to do something and decide to drink a bottle of vodka on a street corner out of view, or when they are dissuaded from drinking so fervently that the first time they go to Ibiza with their mates they feel they have to make the most of it. Um not to much to say apart from I agree with you.
This applies just as much to driving, and relationships as mych as to alcohol, suerly it's better for teenagers to learn about these things with adults aware and around, rather than have to deal with them on there own when they start at university.
This applies just as much to driving, and relationships as mych as to alcohol, suerly it's better for teenagers to learn about these things with adults aware and around, rather than have to deal with them on there own when they start at university.
When I was 14 I got pretty pished in front of my parents at a family do - with their consent.
The took the biscuit out of me SO MUCH, I didn't get really hammered until I was nineteen and physically developed enough to cope with a real humdinger of a toilet worshipping session.
I seriously think that my parents ridiculing me that day kept me sensible for the rest of my teen drinking times. I was far too self-conscious to make myself look stupid again!
The took the biscuit out of me SO MUCH, I didn't get really hammered until I was nineteen and physically developed enough to cope with a real humdinger of a toilet worshipping session.
I seriously think that my parents ridiculing me that day kept me sensible for the rest of my teen drinking times. I was far too self-conscious to make myself look stupid again!
Agree completely. Kids from school kept heading to the park on Firday/Saturday night to drink White Lightening and 20/20.
Being able to have a few friends round and drink a few nice cold lagers with my folks blessing probably saved me from being dragged home by the BiB many times.
I think it only works though if the adults set a good example too. I doubt the scenarios related above would have turned out quite the same if the parents were allways off their face on the stuff. Although it may have had the opposite affect and encouraged tee-totalism in their offspring!
Being able to have a few friends round and drink a few nice cold lagers with my folks blessing probably saved me from being dragged home by the BiB many times.
I think it only works though if the adults set a good example too. I doubt the scenarios related above would have turned out quite the same if the parents were allways off their face on the stuff. Although it may have had the opposite affect and encouraged tee-totalism in their offspring!
dick dastardly said:
When I was young I asked my old man if I could try some of his beer. He let me but I had to spit it out I hated the taste so much. I couldn't even look at the stuff for years.
Moral of the story - force feed your lil uns bitter
My brother used to get the p*** taken mercilessly since the only alcoholic drink he could actually stand to drink was sweet sherry!
He seems to have persevered now though and developed a taste for more "manly" drinks.
I bought my first pint in a pub when I was 14 - three pints of Skol later and I was minging When I was 16 I was out most weekends, not exactly with my parents blessing, but they knew what I was up to. I think I was always fairly sensible when it came to getting hammered - I knew my limits/capacity then, and I do now. I just choose to ignore them 
I don't have a problem with kids drinking - it's any pillock who loses their self-control after a few beers that wind me up.
When I was 16 I was out most weekends, not exactly with my parents blessing, but they knew what I was up to. I think I was always fairly sensible when it came to getting hammered - I knew my limits/capacity then, and I do now. I just choose to ignore them I don't have a problem with kids drinking - it's any pillock who loses their self-control after a few beers that wind me up.
Alas I think society has changed beyond all recognition since I was growing up.
My Mum and Dad used to let us (myself and 2 older brothers) have a glass of watered down wine with Sunday dinner since I can't remember when.
I have a glass of wine or two most days and have been known to lose the power of speech and walking at the odd party of two when I've had my glass constantly topped and not been aware of what I'm drinking. However, I don't LIKE getting drunk, especially to that degree and I certainly don't like the way I feel the next day when I have partaken of too much.
There does seem to be this "Chav Culture" today though that says getting as ratted as you can , plus a competition to see who has the longest hangover is cool and it's something to laugh with your mates about.
My Mum and Dad used to let us (myself and 2 older brothers) have a glass of watered down wine with Sunday dinner since I can't remember when.
I have a glass of wine or two most days and have been known to lose the power of speech and walking at the odd party of two when I've had my glass constantly topped and not been aware of what I'm drinking. However, I don't LIKE getting drunk, especially to that degree and I certainly don't like the way I feel the next day when I have partaken of too much.
There does seem to be this "Chav Culture" today though that says getting as ratted as you can , plus a competition to see who has the longest hangover is cool and it's something to laugh with your mates about.
We took our 14 year old niece out to a restaurant last Saturday night (without her parents) and actively encouraged her to have "just the one" to celebrate her Birthday.
She refused and drank soft drinks all night and spent the rest of the evening calling me Auntie Lush!
She has the odd alcopop at family occasions and I believe has a very healthy attitude to alcohol, which stems from not wanting to make an ar*e out of herself as us adults do (and when I say "Us adults" I mean me!!)
She refused and drank soft drinks all night and spent the rest of the evening calling me Auntie Lush!
She has the odd alcopop at family occasions and I believe has a very healthy attitude to alcohol, which stems from not wanting to make an ar*e out of herself as us adults do (and when I say "Us adults" I mean me!!)
mrs trackside said:
There does seem to be this "Chav Culture" today though that says getting as ratted as you can
Rubbish!
That's been around for as long as I can remember and the first people I ever saw partaking in such behaviour were friends of my parents (and to a lesser extent my own parents). Therefore I'd say it's safe to say that - at least in certain parts of England - that culture has been around since the 70s!
I used to have red wine, diluted with lemonade, with Sunday dinner when I was very, very young, and was gradually introduced to alcohol more and more by my parents as I got older. When I was 15 my folks didn't have any real control over how much I drank when I was out, but I never got completely smashed, and I put that down to my earlier experiences with booze.
To this day I have only ever had one proper hangover, and it's an experience I do not intend to repeat.
>> Edited by DanBoy on Wednesday 17th August 13:20
DanBoy said:
There does seem to be this "Chav Culture" today though that says getting as ratted as you can
Rubbish!
That's been around for as long as I can remember and the first people I ever saw partaking in such behaviour were friends of my parents (and to a lesser extent my own parents). Therefore I'd say it's safe to say that - at least in certain parts of England - that culture has been around since the 70s!
I used to have red wine, diluted with lemonade, with Sunday dinner when I was very, very young, and was gradually introduced to alcohol more and more by my parents as I got older. When I was 15 my folks didn't have any real control over how much I drank when I was out, but I never got completely smashed, and I put that down to my earlier experiences with booze.
To this day I have only ever had one proper hangover, and it's an experience I do not intend to repeat.
>> Edited by DanBoy on Wednesday 17th August 13:20
Maybe I'm not from 'certain' parts of England then.
I grew up in North West London and although myself and friends used to go down the pub every night and get very very merry, I don't remember any of us encouraging each other to get so drunk we couldn't remember our names. It was also a case that if someone said they didn't want any more to drink, then whoever was buying the round would get them a soft drink, not more beer which was the last thing they needed.
I don't think I'm any different from anyone else who was a teenager in the 80s, and I most certainly wasn't one of the sensible people!
I dont think it's just about parents attitude to alcahol but also how much "control" they have over their kids altogether.
My parents said no going out (as in on the lash) until your 18. And I followed the rule. But I was allowed to go to the pub quiz night with my mates on a Tuesday so long as I went to college on time Wednesday morning. It gave me a quick into to haveing a few and coming home on time and within your limits. Before going out on Friday nights and getting wasted and pulling fugly birds.
What gets me is the people who have a few and use that as an excuse to get violent. Those To$$ers spoil it for everyone.
My parents said no going out (as in on the lash) until your 18. And I followed the rule. But I was allowed to go to the pub quiz night with my mates on a Tuesday so long as I went to college on time Wednesday morning. It gave me a quick into to haveing a few and coming home on time and within your limits. Before going out on Friday nights and getting wasted and pulling fugly birds.
What gets me is the people who have a few and use that as an excuse to get violent. Those To$$ers spoil it for everyone.
all I can say is that I had between 30 and 40 of the littel buggers round and I din't have one chunk of carrot anywhere.
A few sore heads the next day, but there was also alcohol left the next day.
It was the adults I had to kick out at 3:30am!
The whole point of being a teenager is about starting out on the adult part of your life - you have all the physical, mental and hopefully moral values that you need to carry you on for the rest of your life, but you are desperately lacking in experience in the adult world.
If they can gain some experience in the safety of the family home then why not?
Cheers,
JC
A few sore heads the next day, but there was also alcohol left the next day.
It was the adults I had to kick out at 3:30am!
The whole point of being a teenager is about starting out on the adult part of your life - you have all the physical, mental and hopefully moral values that you need to carry you on for the rest of your life, but you are desperately lacking in experience in the adult world.
If they can gain some experience in the safety of the family home then why not?
Cheers,
JC
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