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I agree there are so many ridiculous surveys, most of which are pointless and tell us information that we already know, don't need to know, or is so obvious they didn't need a survey in the first place.
There was a survey in the paper this morning that was along the lines of - shock, horror, 94% of students aren't actually over worked souls with no time or somey to party because 94% of them go out drinking.
I mean I could have told them that for the cost 5 seconds of their time.
There was a survey in the paper this morning that was along the lines of - shock, horror, 94% of students aren't actually over worked souls with no time or somey to party because 94% of them go out drinking.
I mean I could have told them that for the cost 5 seconds of their time.
TeamD said:
After reading this...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4220790.stm
...I thought, "Why is it that we seem to have more and more pathetic isolated surveys and research that completely fails (or doesn't even try) to look at the bigger picture?"
Fwits!
Pseudo-science and soundbites have taken the place of proper research. A proper study that considers all aspects doesn't provide a quick
story that can be used to sell papers. Tank Slapper said:
Pseudo-science and soundbites have taken the place of proper research. A proper study that considers all aspects doesn't provide a quick
Or con the public in believing in this cr@p!
Where is the breakdown of...
Cost of planting
Cost of harvesting
Cost of transport to place of burning
What they gonna do? Employ the population of Etheopia to do it by hand? Just think of all those luverly environmentally friendly tractors and articulated lorries transporting the nice gween fuel of rth future around. But that is outside the scope of this current study due the the fact that...
It would totally negate anything we were trying to prove in the first bloody place...FFS...aaaaargh!
and the biomass that makes up the coal - where did that get its Co2 from I wonder
Oh, thats right, the atmosphere
and what about the other pollutants created by burning, do they just magically not happen because the greenies wnat it that way?
We're a sealed system, so any changes internally are going to be neutral overall
Oh, thats right, the atmosphere
and what about the other pollutants created by burning, do they just magically not happen because the greenies wnat it that way?
We're a sealed system, so any changes internally are going to be neutral overall
esselte said:
[I suppose the problem there is that by burning coal you are releasing CO2 that was absorbed millions of years ago and was locked out of the system.
But as I've pointed out previously...
Since the Earth didn't suffer from runaway greenhouse effect then, why should it do that now? It proves that what the "gween scientists" are saying is a lie, for all their skewed models and rhetoric.
TeamD said:
[I suppose the problem there is that by burning coal you are releasing CO2 that was absorbed millions of years ago and was locked out of the system.
But as I've pointed out previously...
Since the Earth didn't suffer from runaway greenhouse effect then, why should it do that now? It proves that what the "gween scientists" are saying is a lie, for all their skewed models and rhetoric.
I'm no greenie.I always thought that the world was a lot warmer in the days when the plants that went to make coal were growing?
Warmer, wetter, kinda all those things that do stuff like encourage plants to grow and suck CO2 out of the air...so what's the problem? That is when there wasn't an ice age! 
What I can't get is that we have a bunch of lentil munching nutters who have taken it upon themselves to determine some climatic baseline that that they seem to believe we and the planet Earth should adhere to. Why? Climate change had happened forever (in terms of the lifecycle of our planet), why worry about it now? To claim that we are responsible and will ultimately render our world uninhabitable by simply changing the state of something that has always existied in just pure vanity. Or to be more truthful, it's jobs for da boyz.
What I can't get is that we have a bunch of lentil munching nutters who have taken it upon themselves to determine some climatic baseline that that they seem to believe we and the planet Earth should adhere to. Why? Climate change had happened forever (in terms of the lifecycle of our planet), why worry about it now? To claim that we are responsible and will ultimately render our world uninhabitable by simply changing the state of something that has always existied in just pure vanity. Or to be more truthful, it's jobs for da boyz.
Oh and whilst I'm at it...
These sort of folk are the same sort that get their knickers in a twist about the pollution of our world with Tesco bags that take yonks to degrade
Well? since they're made out of oil and contain quite a bit of carbon, surely we're just doing our gween duty by locking the carbon out of the system for a while?
These sort of folk are the same sort that get their knickers in a twist about the pollution of our world with Tesco bags that take yonks to degrade
Well? since they're made out of oil and contain quite a bit of carbon, surely we're just doing our gween duty by locking the carbon out of the system for a while? When you say all that scientists say about global warming is a lie could you source it please? Or are you simply making it up (and saying its a load of bollox doesn't constitute a reasoned argument)?
My own view is that the theory of global warming due to increasing amounts of "insulating" gasses is technically correct. However, the impact that this is likely to have and the extent to which man is to blame is overstated. The overstatment usually arises from political environmental groups hijacking reasonably sound scientific findings for their own ends.
The suggestions of renewable energy resources is always attacked as lentil munching bollox on these boards without thinking about the ramifications. The less oil the world uses for electricity production the more available for powering V8s! Come on people, do you want all those lovely hydrocarbons wasted on electricity?
Finally, the idea of paying farmers to produce something useful instead of paying them to leave fields empty seems like a sensible plan. It'll also piss off those self righteous red-sock-wearing rambling folk, which can't be a bad thing...... (you know the ones, they walk along the apex of B road corners and then wave their stick/ski poles at you when your wing mirror misses them by a micron
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My own view is that the theory of global warming due to increasing amounts of "insulating" gasses is technically correct. However, the impact that this is likely to have and the extent to which man is to blame is overstated. The overstatment usually arises from political environmental groups hijacking reasonably sound scientific findings for their own ends.
The suggestions of renewable energy resources is always attacked as lentil munching bollox on these boards without thinking about the ramifications. The less oil the world uses for electricity production the more available for powering V8s! Come on people, do you want all those lovely hydrocarbons wasted on electricity?
Finally, the idea of paying farmers to produce something useful instead of paying them to leave fields empty seems like a sensible plan. It'll also piss off those self righteous red-sock-wearing rambling folk, which can't be a bad thing...... (you know the ones, they walk along the apex of B road corners and then wave their stick/ski poles at you when your wing mirror misses them by a micron
) MilnerR said:
The suggestions of renewable energy resources is always attacked as lentil munching bollox on these boards without thinking about the ramifications. The less oil the world uses for electricity production the more available for powering V8s! Come on people, do you want all those lovely hydrocarbons wasted on electricity?
Absolutely. It gets a bit boring after a while, to be honest.
MilnerR said:
When you say all that scientists say about global warming is a lie could you source it please? Or are you simply making it up (and saying its a load of bollox doesn't constitute a reasoned argument)?
My own view is that the theory of global warming due to increasing amounts of "insulating" gasses is technically correct. However, the impact that this is likely to have and the extent to which man is to blame is overstated. The overstatment usually arises from political environmental groups hijacking reasonably sound scientific findings for their own ends.
The suggestions of renewable energy resources is always attacked as lentil munching bollox on these boards without thinking about the ramifications. The less oil the world uses for electricity production the more available for powering V8s! Come on people, do you want all those lovely hydrocarbons wasted on electricity?
Finally, the idea of paying farmers to produce something useful instead of paying them to leave fields empty seems like a sensible plan. It'll also piss off those self righteous red-sock-wearing rambling folk, which can't be a bad thing...... (you know the ones, they walk along the apex of B road corners and then wave their stick/ski poles at you when your wing mirror misses them by a micron
Well said.
Whatever your stance on global warming if we can start running our cars on bio-ethanol and bio-diesel then we wont be reliant on the middle east for oil. I think this would have a pretty positive effect on world politics.
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