Planes landing in the sea. Discuss survival possibilities?

[humpbackmaniac]

Here's me flying dodgy airline to Egypt on Sunday, not much sea between here and egypt but i fool myself into thinking that if we land in the sea in an emergency, as opposed to the land, it being rock hard, i might have a better chance.
However surely the engines will act as big parachutes against the water causing all sorts of headaches at 300mph plus....am i kidding myself?

Now thinking land is a better option, chance of a landing at least..

Where did i put that Tamazapan?

[cotty]

Water is like concrete if you hit it hard enough

[KITT]

Have you ever seen or heard of a plane landing on water like they show in the safety leaflets?

Thought not.

I have however seen the footage of a plane cart-wheeling across the ocean

[dave_s13]

Given that you can cut through steel with a high pressure water jet, your pretty much fekd m8!

There's a vid on the net somewhere of a plane crashing into the sea. Looks ok for a couple of seconds but goes on to disintergrate like a good un!

[planetdave]

Chances - slim to anorexic

[timmy30]

5 or 6 years ago a flight out of Sudan ( I think it ws Sundan anyway ) was hijacked, as the plane circled over the Indian ocean gradually running out of fuel the hijackers refused to let the plane reland or give any direction, instead they bizzarely got hold of the liquor trolly and proceeded to get totally p***sed.

Anyway eventually the plane was forced to ditch in the sea, only about 100m offshore in shallow water, however most of the passengers drowned, amongst the survivors were a couple of Britsh girls who were able to give a description of the whole thing.

Apparently the water comes in bloody quickly.

[wolves_wanderer]

It's not so much landing in the sea as crashing into it. Still, you can console yourself with the thought that the lifejackets they give you are to help with locating bodies rather than aiding survival.


Hope this helps

[planetdave]

humpbackmaniac said:

It was the thought of those poxy leaflets that got me going! 747-200 and the med meet at 300mph....Mikes holiday is ruined. UNLESS the "lost" island is infact in the med and i arrive to discover that dark haired lass has lost all her clothes and is developing a penchant for Suffolk lads! That might be worth flying air atlanta for!

Air Atlanta?

Not from Manchester is it?

May god have mercy on your soul.

PS hope you enjoy checking in at the station.

[BliarOut]

You crash, chances are you'll die.... But the chances of actually crashing are minute

[timmy30]

BliarOut said:

You crash, chances are you'll die.... But the chances of actually crashing are minute

So it's a bit like entering the lottery really? Only obviously you don't want to win.

[humpbackmaniac]

I found the blog site on Manchester and air atlanta, that looked BAD but we are going from Gatwick and there is no reference to gaffa tape or 33hr delays from there, fingers crossed. Delay on the way out will not be too bad, 24hr bar at Gatwick etc.. But on the return would be an absoloute killer, Sharm airport is like the Bangkok Hilton!



editted for spelling!

>> Edited by humpbackmaniac on Friday 16th September 15:44

[cotty]

TheDarkSide said:

Just remember, when they give the safety demo and tell you to put your head between your knees in the event of an emergency landing... It has no chance of saving you, but at least it lessens damage to your jaw so you can be more easily identified from dental records.

I thought it was so you can kiss your ass goodbye

[humpbackmaniac]

So if buy a lottery ticket and take it on the plane, that doubles my chances of having an exciting day!

[Supersonic]

timmy30 said:

5 or 6 years ago a flight out of Sudan ( I think it ws Sundan anyway ) was hijacked, as the plane circled over the Indian ocean gradually running out of fuel the hijackers refused to let the plane reland or give any direction, instead they bizzarely got hold of the liquor trolly and proceeded to get totally p***sed. Anyway eventually the plane was forced to ditch in the sea, only about 100m offshore in shallow water, however most of the passengers drowned, amongst the survivors were a couple of Britsh girls who were able to give a description of the whole thing. Apparently the water comes in bloody quickly.

That one?
http://cgi-bin.simradar.com/video_delivery/2827/AirPlaneCrash.ram

[r988]

timmy30 said:

5 or 6 years ago a flight out of Sudan ( I think it ws Sundan anyway ) was hijacked, as the plane circled over the Indian ocean gradually running out of fuel the hijackers refused to let the plane reland or give any direction, instead they bizzarely got hold of the liquor trolly and proceeded to get totally p***sed. Anyway eventually the plane was forced to ditch in the sea, only about 100m offshore in shallow water, however most of the passengers drowned, amongst the survivors were a couple of Britsh girls who were able to give a description of the whole thing. Apparently the water comes in bloody quickly.

and here is the video,

www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/Airliner_Water_Ditching.mpeg

and some more preflight videos to reassure you, thank me later
www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

[nel]

For what it's worth, experience seems to indicate that the people with any chance whatsoever of surviving are those in the tail section that don't have rows of laden seats behind them just waiting to crush them under the brutal deceleration. So those travelling absolute dogdirt class and sitting by the bogs are more likely (albeit a slim chance) of coming out of it than the suave, moneyed types up the front.

If they wanted to make aircraft crashes more survivable then, in theory, the seats would be rearwards facing to give proper support during a decelerative incident.

Have a nice flight....

[humpbackmaniac]

Thanks. no really.

I have survived a flight from Lukla to Kathmandu if anyone knows it, and after that i thought i would be fine on large craft.

The above involved a "pope special" kissing the ground when we landed, in tears! infront of the waiting passengers keen to board the Otter something or other.