Human saturation limit
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UKBob

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16,277 posts

295 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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I suppose we all get used to the amount of 'space' we have. The chinese and city dwellers being more used to the lack thereof.

Any guesses, as to how much longer it will be, before we run out of space. What happens when we "run out" anyway.

I'll bet that in 50 years time, not only will 'breeding restricictions' be in place, but england will be a lot smaller than we are currently accustomed to it being.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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We've already run out in my neck o' the woods....

Thought this was UK-wide....?

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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people have been going on about this since Malthus.

Vipers

33,506 posts

258 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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I think mother nature has ways of culling the specis, at least I hope so.....

up-the-dubs

4,282 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Vipers said:
I think mother nature has ways of culling the specis, at least I hope so.....


Problem is that we try our best to defeat her efforts. We'll probably all drown from the melting ice caps or something.

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Demographics show a decrease in population in this country over the next 50 years or so, with many more pensioners around than young people to pay for it all.

Theres plenty of space in this island - its mainly those in the SE that seem to think we're heading for meltdown.

moleamol

15,887 posts

293 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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parrot of doom said:
Demographics show a decrease in population in this country over the next 50 years or so, with many more pensioners around than young people to pay for it all.
With chavs breeding like rabbits? I doubt it.

telecat

8,528 posts

271 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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I think you'd be surprised at how little of the land (especially in the UK) we actually use.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

285 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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I recall seeing a calculation that sowed that, standing shoulder to shoulder every human on earth could fit on the Isle of White. I'm sure there are more people now but even if there were twice the impact is still small.

mmertens

397 posts

312 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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UK is not all that densely populated (well cities of course but that's the same everywhere). When I lived there for about 6 years, it always struck you how much space you actually still have (I'm dutch). Some more people will easily fit... The question might be how much land you need to sustain a person but that's a wholly different one and should not be seen on a national scale. I suppose it depends in how much you want and need to invest in feeding populations. But again, no worries whatsoever for the UK for the foreseeabl future...
www.geohive.com/charts/charts.php?xml=world&xsl=pop_density

JagLover

46,785 posts

265 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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parrot of doom said:
Demographics show a decrease in population in this country over the next 50 years or so, with many more pensioners around than young people to pay for it all.

Theres plenty of space in this island - its mainly those in the SE that seem to think we're heading for meltdown.


That may have been a forecast made some time ago before the recent upsurge in immigration. I believe the current forcast is for the population to increase to around 65 million.

As for there being plenty of space the SE is one of the most densly populated places on the planet, which is why we are more worried about the problem.

UKBob

Original Poster:

16,277 posts

295 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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up-the-dubs said:

Vipers said:
I think mother nature has ways of culling the specis, at least I hope so.....



Problem is that we try our best to defeat her efforts. We'll probably all drown from the melting ice caps or something.
Culling as in aids? I hope not.

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

307 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Hmm, Soylent Green anyone?

I think we are a long way off saturation. The question really is how much compromise and reduction in quality of life we are prepared to put up with, and perhaps more importantly whether we we in fact still have any say when that point is reached. And even if we had any say, would anyone listen? If someone did listen, would they be able to do anything?

No, we will sail on past the sensible point to stop population explosion. Inertia and political correctness will see to that. We'll all end up living in accomodation modules (think 5th Element) and living on processed junk that we have no idea of the origins of (the aformentioned Soylent Green). We'll be fed a diet of junk TV of ever increasing voilence and sensationalism to numb our senses (The Running Man).

Actually, with "Starter Homes", McDonalds and Big Brother we are well on the way already.

towman

14,938 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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UKBob said:
I suppose we all get used to the amount of 'space' we have. The chinese and city dwellers being more used to the lack thereof.


This is my luxury hotel room in Japan! If I had a cat, it would nave a bruised cranium by now!

deva link

26,934 posts

275 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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It always amazes me that when you look down from an aircraft, there seems to be loads of green space.
I wonder what % of *usable* land is actually built on, in England/UK? I've got a number of 7% in my head, but don't know where that came from.

>> Edited by deva link on Monday 3rd October 10:38

tinman0

18,231 posts

270 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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surely the human saturation point is not when we are crammed together but when we run out of space to produce food?

TangoAlpha

1,175 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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tinman0 said:
surely the human saturation point is not when we are crammed together but when we run out of space to produce food?

We'll all be eating seaweed by then

minimax

11,985 posts

286 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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deva link said:
It always amazes me that when you look down from an aircraft, there seems to be loads of green space.
I wonder what % of *usable* land is actually built on, in England/UK? I've got a number of 7% in my head, but don't know where that came from.

>> Edited by deva link on Monday 3rd October 10:38


I seem to recall reading that only 5% of the UK is covered in roads...

gh0st

4,693 posts

288 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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Nice to see you stocking up on the ciggies there towman...

Kentish

15,169 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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UKBob said:
HUMAN SATURATION LIMIT


I find it happens after about 8 or 9 pints...