Bird flu.
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ZR1cliff

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17,999 posts

279 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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They are finding infected birds in Asia,Russia and now Europe are we over reacting or is there something we should be concerned about.

up-the-dubs

4,282 posts

259 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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It's being watched at the moment. Nothing to fear yet unless you work with chickens and live in Asia.

yertis

19,715 posts

296 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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I wondered how long before we had a thread about this.

I feared that we are finished, but a nurse friend of mine who works in flu prevention told me not to be so bloody stupid.

srebbe64

13,021 posts

267 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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They were saying on the radio that it's a poultry disease. Personally, I'd say it was more important than that.

Flat in Fifth

48,811 posts

281 months

ATG

23,801 posts

302 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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At the moment there is only one known case where the disease may have passed from human to human out of the 120ish known cases (according to a bloke on the radio). As a result, you have to have a lot of direct contact with infected birds to be at any risk at all. If the virus were to mutate so that it could pass from human to human, the situation would be much more serious.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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Best stay away from any chickens with colds then

bridgdav

4,805 posts

278 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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Christmas doesn't look good....

They have found the bird flu in Turkey....!

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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Didn't James Bond have Christmas in Turkey?

Nuggs

4,640 posts

264 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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los angeles said:

bridgdav said:
They have found the bird flu in Turkey....!

Did you mean to say, "They have found the flu in a turkey"?


I doubt it, otherwise the play-on-words wouldn't have worked so well...

diddyman

3,646 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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los angeles said:
The Spanish Flu epidemic of the eighties killed some 100 million worldwide.

1918/1919 wernit?

diddyman

3,646 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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los angeles said:

diddyman said:
1918/1919 wernit?

No. It definitely was over a 100 million.

fernah

R988

7,496 posts

259 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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los angeles said:
The Spanish Flu epidemic of the eighties killed some 100 million worldwide.


yeah but thats only a small percentage of the population,obivously it didn't wipe out the human race, just the weak ones. As no doubt will the new strain. Darwinism at work, survival of the fittest and luckiest and all that.

Not really worth worrying about though is it, if the flu doesn't get you something else will.

simpo two

92,857 posts

295 months

Thursday 13th October 2005
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54 people killed? Big deal. SARS was over-hyped nonsense too, and how many people got BSE after all the fracas? You'd think these things were Plague, which wiped out a third of Europe's population and really was something worth worrying about.

If you keep things in perspective then it's just the media needing another panic story. Asteroids, global warming etc.

medicineman

1,822 posts

267 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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No panic YET but if it mutates and becomes as infectious as human flu its going to wipe alot of people out.

4WD

2,289 posts

261 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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The thing with virus's is they often mutate of their own accord into different strains. One of these slightly modified versions may well find it very easy to jump from person to person. It really is only a matter of time before this happens. And it will reach the UK naturally anyway, due to the migrating birds (not the ground restricted chickens).

The only long term hope is if Labour actually pay for the millions of vaccinations NOW, as it will take many years to manufacture enough for everybody. Clearly this isn't going to happen. Besides, the current know vaccines don't even cure it properly, they merely reduce the effects slightly.

Many millions have died in the past from similar situations.

>> Edited by 4WD on Friday 14th October 08:16

willmcc

758 posts

269 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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The real impact of this will be economic, while the disease will probably never be as big as some of the more sensational predictions the economic effects could be huge.
I work in the airline industry and quite simply we could be looking at a shutdown in international air travel, that is how this will really affect us all.

SARS may have been hype but it almost put two of the best airlines in the industry out of business (Singapore air and Cathay) and cost SE Asia billions.

4WD

2,289 posts

261 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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I doubt the airlines will shut down. It will reach us anyhow due to the migrating birds. Net result is the same, so no point damaging the economy even more.

Egbert Nobacon

2,835 posts

273 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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My budgie has just sneezed - what shall I do ?

john75

5,303 posts

277 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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If you use a darwin model the weaker members of society will be most hardest hit.