Banning, it just doesn't work! (Furry friends again)
Banning, it just doesn't work! (Furry friends again)
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BliarOut

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72,863 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4358006.stm

[quote=The BBC]

[b]Hunting survives as ban bent and broken[/b]

Emerging from a copse in Prime Minister Tony Blair's own constituency of Sedgefield, a pack of hounds is followed by a posse of riders.

They have been trying to flush a fox out of the woods and are happy to let me watch as they are satisfied that, despite the ban on hunting with dogs, they're not breaking the law.

Waiting outside the woods is a man with a bird on his arm - an eagle owl.

Falconry is not outlawed and in that sport you use dogs to flush prey to your bird.

So around the country, hunts see this as a way to get around the law.

The Countryside Alliance says around 50 packs have bought a bird or made a deal with a falconer to come out when they are in the field.

It would be possible to gather evidence to mount a prosecution, but very difficult and costly
So what kills the fox - bird or dog?

To an extent this is an irrelevant question - hunts have always got more pleasure from the chase than the kill.

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So that was a good use of parliamentary time and our tax revenue.... Hunting is banned, long live hunting :yes:

KITT

5,345 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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You've got to admire their cunning interpretation of the law

BliarOut

Original Poster:

72,863 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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KITT said:
You've got to admire their cunning interpretation of the law

So cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a fox

UKBob

16,277 posts

295 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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KITT said:
You've got to admire their cunning interpretation of the law
And the dogs for knowing the difference

pdV6

16,442 posts

291 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Excellent!

nonegreen

7,803 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Similarly if you drive past a certain hotel on the shores of lake Windermere you will see a sign saying "water skiing here today" in big bold letters. Since the children of the speed patrolmen started getting bullied at school by the other kids their dads have curiously found other things to do.

Real genuine stupidity will never win out in this country. I am getting sick of having to live part of my adult life here though surely we have now had enough is it not time to smash the chattils of these drug using whore addicted liberal knobheads who are intent on imposing their boring featureless society on us?

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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BliarOut said:

KITT said:
You've got to admire their cunning interpretation of the law


So cunning you could slap a tail on it and call it a fox



excellent

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Mind you. The Beeb has a vendetta going so expect to see loads of meeja coverage about how its all still terribly bad to help stir up the Islingtonites into heading off to the country in their Range Rovers to take video of people riding about on horses.

(Could I get any more sterotypes into that, I wonder!)

Impartial even factual coverage my big fat hairy arse.

Frankly it would be best for everyone to simply shut up about the matter. The Class War Soldiers got their victory - the fact that its irrelevant just needs to be quietly forgotten.

BliarOut

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72,863 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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I only dragged it up to show the anti-smoking brigade how futile banning anything is

alfaman

6,416 posts

264 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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BliarOut said:
I only dragged it up when I realised I was soundly thrashed by the anti-smoking brigade in a previous debate


JMGS4

8,932 posts

300 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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What the bleating Beeb did not report on however are all the landowners who have told the MoD (i.e. bLIARs cronies) that they cannot use their land any more! Getting to be a problem especially with the REALLY big landowners in the borders....ranges and training areas.... no longer going to be able to be used...
Oh dear...was all soooo well thought out wasn't it you damned envy politicians!!!

r988

7,496 posts

259 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Don said:

(Could I get any more sterotypes into that, I wonder!)


You barely scratched the surface

Ecks Ridgehead

4,285 posts

258 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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BliarOut said:
I only dragged it up to show the anti-smoking brigade how futile banning anything is


I thought the smoking ban in Eire was being observed to the letter.

BliarOut

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72,863 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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alfaman said:

BliarOut said:
I only dragged it to counter the smugness of the anti-smoking brigade in a previous debate




Pah, the anti-smokers have put up a pretty poor showing so far

I'm off to watch some toffs ripping some foxes to bits while having a in the old 4x4

telecat

8,528 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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They have just effectively banned Trail Riding as well now. Despite months of consultation with LARA and assureances that they would not bar use of "green lanes" to Riders and users of 4x4's they have passed a bill allowing local authorities to issue closure notices to vehicles whenever and for whatever time they please! So much for democratic government.

JagLover

46,790 posts

265 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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It is good to see that Fox Hunters are sticking two fingers up to the Lentilist scum in Westminster.

vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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JagLover said:
It is good to see that Fox Hunters are sticking two fingers up to the Lentilist scum in Westminster.


Amen to that!

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Expect to see some horsie riders on a "falconry" exercise getting arrested for "terrorism" or incitement to public unrest or some other stupid new law.

Glad that the big land owners are taking the fight back to BLiar and his tw4t head government.

It's about time the government realised who they work for... the people of the UK...

Perhaps when they start pampering to whinging minority public opinion they'll look at the big picture in future instead of going on little crusades for a popularity contest to idiotic uneducated voters, aired by Bliars Broadcasting Corporation!

Dave

C C

8,054 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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telecat said:
They have just effectively banned Trail Riding as well now. Despite months of consultation with LARA and assureances that they would not bar use of "green lanes" to Riders and users of 4x4's they have passed a bill allowing local authorities to issue closure notices to vehicles whenever and for whatever time they please! So much for democratic government.


The government had been willing to be a little relaxed on this issue until:

“Shadow Agriculture and Rural Affairs Minister James Paice introduced a series of amendments, describing the damage which 4 wheel drive vehicles and motorbikes can do to rural byways, making them impassable for walkers and riders. He welcomed the Government's intention in the Natural Environment and Rural Communities Bill to end the ability to claim byways for mechanically propelled vehicles on the basis that they were once used "by a chariot".

Mr Paice said: "However, whenever commencement takes place there will remain the issue of the large number of outstanding claims, some 2000 of them. If all those cases, or even a significant proportion of them, are recorded as 'byways open to all traffic' the whole purpose of the new law would be useless."

He went on to propose that the Secretary of State should be required to review all of them and to issue Traffic Regulation Orders prohibiting motorised vehicles if there was evidence of damage to the natural environment, or they restricted use of the byway by other users”


So BliarOut won’t be able to “to watch some toffs ripping some foxes to bits while having a in the old 4x4 ”

greg_D

6,542 posts

276 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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I am so glad that PH is still the haven to common sense that i like so much.

the initial ban was ridiculous in the extreme, and bliar knew full well but had been backed into a corner, you watch him sit on his hands now, this way, everyone wins.

Greg